tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22716916360053950562024-02-20T20:15:22.619+11:00Inside History Magazine blogInside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.comBlogger149125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-86383414735959852222014-05-01T00:00:00.000+10:002014-05-03T20:49:47.147+10:00Issue 22: May-Jun 2014 is now available!Inside History magazine is for people passionate about Australian and New Zealand genealogy, history and heritage. Confronting and commemorating our past: <strong><a href="https://shop.insidehistory.com.au/product/current-issue" target="_blank">issue 22 of Inside History</a></strong> (May-Jun) is here.<br />
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Boy convicts, the Myall Creek massacre, the charming tale of a wartime bugler, what to do when the historical record gets it wrong, and much more! Issue 22 of Inside History combines entertain-ing historic stories, practical family history tips, and hard-hitting accounts of Australian history’s darkest episodes. Myall Creek 176 years on: what secrets are still hidden about this significant yet horrific event? In-side History regular <strong><a href="http://www.marktedeschi.com/" target="_blank">Mark Tedeschi</a></strong>, Senior Crown Prosecutor for New South Wales, re-examines the genocidal <strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myall_Creek_massacre" target="_blank">Myall Creek</a> massacre</strong> of Indigenous people in 1838 in this first instalment of a two-part series. One of the most violent atrocities to ever mar the colonial frontier, find out what really happened at Myall Creek - and which perpetrator got away with murder. An unsettling yet vital read.<br />
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Facing another dark yet crucial chapter in Australian history, discover the little-known stories of child convicts sent to Australia. Best-selling author <strong><a href="http://stephenorr.weebly.com/" target="_blank">Stephen Orr</a></strong> investigates the experiences of convict boys in the early 1800s and reveals why <strong><a href="http://www.portarthur.org.au/index.aspx?base=1923" target="_blank">Point Puer Boys’ Prison</a></strong> was known as ‘a junior Port Arthur’. Next, Inside History takes on the challenge of faulty records: what to do when you come across an historical record that is factually incorrect? Learn how to go about correcting official records and do your bit for posterity in our touching story of one researcher’s mission to restore her ancestor to his rightful place in history.<br />
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Meet the proud descendants of record-breaking cyclist Eddie Reichenbach and hear how they are commemorating the century of his cross-country ride from Adelaide to Darwin. We also take a walk on the wild side, following in the footsteps of a lesser-known explorer on his 1848 trek to Cape York.<br />
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Then, join us as we tour the Western Front of 1916 through the eyes of a World War One soldier, bearing witness to the wartime experiences recounted in his own, at times heartbreaking, diary. Jenny Norberry, one of the curators of the <strong><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/" target="_blank">Australian War Memorial</a></strong>'s <strong><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/anzac-voices/" target="_blank">ANZAC Voices exhibition</a></strong> tells his story.<br />
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Plus, read the tale of an Aussie bugler whose calls and coo-ees sounded through both world wars.<br />
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Take your own family history further with <strong><a href="http://diaryofanaustraliangenealogist.blogspot.com.au/" target="_blank">Shauna Hicks</a></strong>’s expert guide to the <strong><a href="http://www.lca.org.au/archives.html" target="_blank">Lutheran archives</a></strong>, and find out what the <strong><a href="http://www.australiandressregister.org/" target="_blank">Australian Dress Register</a></strong> can unveil about your ancestors’ past as represen-tatives from the <strong><a href="http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/" target="_blank">Powerhouse Museum</a></strong> field reader questions on historical dress.<br />
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Then, famous genealogist <strong><a href="http://www.djoshuataylor.com" target="_blank">Joshua Taylor</a></strong> gives the scoop on the worldwide campaign underway to digitise society journals and newsletters from all around the world. Find out how you can utilise this international resource - and how you can help!<br />
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Plus, we look at how an 1820s map of Launceston has been brought into the 21st century and learn about <a href="http://www.findmypast.com.au/" target="_blank"><strong>findmypast</strong></a>’s ambitious upcoming campaign. Inside History also ventures behind the scenes of <strong><a href="http://history.sa.gov.au/" target="_blank">History SA</a></strong> to find out what’s in store for the country’s largest community history festival, <strong><a href="http://abouttime.sa.gov.au/" target="_blank">About Time</a></strong>. Not to mention our regular round-up of the latest and greatest online records from around the world!<br />
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Commemorate, confront and uncover the past - from unknown secrets to significant milestones, tragedies and triumphs alike - in the latest issue of Inside History.<br />
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Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-80212697024805104452013-07-14T21:20:00.001+10:002013-07-17T17:23:35.008+10:0050 genealogy blogs you need to read in 2013!Inside History’s 2nd Annual Genealogy Blog Awards are here! With the help of geneablogger Jill Ball, we’ve compiled our best 50 blogs from around the world. Get ready for “a glorious and unforgettable ride”. Drum roll, please…<br />
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What makes a geneablog great? Many people’s responses to this question via Twitter and Google+ have guided the choices here for Inside History’s 2nd Annual Genealogy Blog Awards.
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The suggestion that most struck a chord was from Caroline Pointer who wrote, ‘Ones that take me on a glorious and unforgettable ride. And all the other stuff everyone else suggested.’ Our respondents looked for elements such as accuracy, commitment, consistency, content, originality, photographs, tone and writing style, while a few people touched on the technical aspects of a blog like a clean appearance, and no junk ads. Alona Tester suggested, ‘useful bits like blog archives [and] search, subscribe and share buttons’. Blogs that are easy to find, access and navigate rated highly here; blogs are a collaborative medium so bloggers need to make it easy for readers to interact with their audience. The relevance of these features varies from blog to blog depending on their style and purpose.<br />
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Surprisingly, no-one suggested passion, which is an extension of commitment. When examining the blogs for this list, commitment from an institutional or commercial blog, or passion from a personal blog rated highly. A blogger does not have to post daily to have commitment, but it needs to be on a regular basis be it daily, weekly or monthly.
Readers also need to know what to expect, and this should be communicated in an About page on a blog. Other static pages such as calendars, contact details, disclosures and other relevant information also add value. Originality was the feature that received the most mentions and this has been a big factor in determining the awards. In the words of one respondent, we were looking for blogs that contain more than ‘simply press releases’. It’s great to see new blogs being launched all the time in the geneablogging world, and some of these are included here, such as Irish Genealogy News and Jax Trax.<br />
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The following list of Inside History’s top 50 blogs for 2013 is divided into categories and is listed in alphabetical order rather than rank or order of merit. So without any further ado, let’s reveal which blogs from around the globe made it onto our must-read (and must-follow) list for 2013…<br />
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Stay up to date with what some of our leading institutions are doing when it comes to family history. Here are a few that we like to read:<br />
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1. Archives Outside, <a href="http://archivesoutside.records.nsw.gov.au/" target="_blank">archivesoutside.records.nsw.gov.au</a><br />
2. Australian War Memorial, <a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/blog" target="_blank">www.awm.gov.au/blog</a><br />
3. Dictionary of Sydney, <a href="http://trust.dictionaryofsydney.org/category/blog" target="_blank">trust.dictionaryofsydney.org/category/blog</a><br />
4. John Oxley Library, State Library of Queensland, <a href="http://blogs.slq.qld.gov.au/jol" target="_blank">blogs.slq.qld.gov.au/jol</a><br />
5. Kintalk, Auckland City Libraries, <a href="http://kintalkfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">kintalkfamilyhistory.blogspot.com</a><br />
6. Manly Families, Manly Library, <a href="http://manlyfamilies.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">manlyfamilies.blogspot.com</a><br />
7. Moonee Valley History, <a href="http://mooneevalleyfamilylocalhistory.blogspot.com.au/" target="_blank">mooneevalleyfamilylocalhistory.blogspot.com.au</a><br />
8. Perth History Centre, <a href="http://community.perth.wa.gov.au/historycentre" target="_blank">community.perth.wa.gov.au/historycentre</a><br />
9. Public Record Office Victoria, <a href="http://prov.vic.gov.au/publications/blog" target="_blank">prov.vic.gov.au/publications/blog</a><br />
10. National Library of Australia, <a href="http://blogs.nla.gov.au/the-eloquent-page" target="_blank">blogs.nla.gov.au/the-eloquent-page</a><br />
11. The National Archives, <a href="http://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/" target="_blank">blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk</a><br />
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Want to be the first to know when new records or techy features are released? Here are our favourite blogs from genealogy organisations:<br />
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12. Ancestry.com.au, <a href="http://blogs.ancestry.com/au" target="_blank">blogs.ancestry.com/au</a><br />
13. Billion Graves, <a href="http://blog.billiongraves.com/" target="_blank">blog.billiongraves.com</a><br />
14. FamilySearch, <a href="http://familysearch.org/blog" target="_blank">familysearch.org/blog</a><br />
15. findmypast.com, <a href="http://blog.findmypast.com/" target="_blank">blog.findmypast.com</a><br />
16. Geneanet Genealogy Blog, <a href="http://genealogyblog.geneanet.org/" target="_blank">genealogyblog.geneanet.org</a><br />
17. Gould Genealogy and History News, <a href="http://www.gouldgenealogy.com/" target="_blank">www.gouldgenealogy.com</a><br />
18. Legacy Family Tree, <a href="http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/" target="_blank">news.legacyfamilytree.com</a><br />
19. MyHeritage Blog, <a href="http://blog.myheritage.com/" target="_blank">blog.myheritage.com</a><br />
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<strong>Niche topics and societies</strong>
Some blogs are smaller in scope, but have a largesse of informative posts on the topic at hand. Here are some examples:<br />
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20. Genealogists for Families Project, <a href="http://genfamilies.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">genfamilies.blogspot.com</a><br />
21. Local History Newslink, Maitland NSW, <a href="http://localhistorynews.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">localhistorynews.blogspot.com</a><br />
22. The Empire Called and I Answered, <a href="http://empirecall.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">empirecall.blogspot.com</a><br />
23. Genealogical Society of Victoria, <a href="http://genealogyworld.blogspot.com.au/" target="_blank">genealogyworld.blogspot.com.au</a><br />
24. Ku-ring-gai Historical Society, <a href="http://kuringgaihs.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">kuringgaihs.blogspot.com</a><br />
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<strong>Personal genealogists</strong>
As every researcher knows, family history is a labour of love, whether it’s a hobby or a career. Here are our favourite personal blogs:<br />
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25. Anglo-Celtic Connections, <a href="http://anglo-celtic-connections.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">anglo-celtic-connections.blogspot.com</a><br />
26. A Rebel Hand, <a href="http://rebelhand.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">rebelhand.wordpress.com</a><br />
27. Auld Genealogy, <a href="http://auldgenealogy.blogspot.com.au/" target="_blank">auldgenealogy.blogspot.com.au</a><br />
28. Australian Genealogy Journeys, <a href="http://ausgenjourneys.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">ausgenjourneys.blogspot.com</a><br />
29. Backtracking, <a href="http://boobookbacktracks.blogspot.com.au/" target="_blank">boobookbacktracks.blogspot.com.au</a><br />
30. Chloe Okoli, <a href="http://chloeokoli.com/" target="_blank">chloeokoli.com</a><br />
31. Dear Myrtle, <a href="http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/" target="_blank">blog.dearmyrtle.com</a><br />
32. Family History Across the Seas, <a href="http://cassmob.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">cassmob.wordpress.com</a><br />
33. Family History Fun, <a href="http://scotsue-familyhistoryfun.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">scotsue-familyhistoryfun.blogspot.com</a><br />
34. GenBlog, <a href="http://genblogjulie.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">genblogjulie.blogspot.com</a><br />
35. Genealogy’s Star, <a href="http://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">genealogysstar.blogspot.com</a><br />
36. Geniaus, <a href="http://geniaus.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">geniaus.blogspot.com</a><br />
37.Jax Trax, <a href="http://jackievanbergen.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">jackievanbergen.blogspot.com</a><br />
38. Kylie’s Genes, <a href="http://blog.kyliesgenes.com/" target="_blank">blog.kyliesgenes.com</a><br />
39. Lonetester HQ, <a href="http://www.lonetester.com/" target="_blank">www.lonetester.com</a><br />
40. Mad about Genealogy, <a href="http://madaboutgenealogy.com/" target="_blank">madaboutgenealogy.com</a><br />
41. Now and Then, <a href="http://lynnwalsh.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">lynnwalsh.wordpress.com</a><br />
42. Strong Foundations, <a href="http://shazlex.blogspot.com.au/" target="_blank">shazlex.blogspot.com.au</a><br />
43. Stumbling Through the Past, <a href="http://stumblingpast.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">stumblingpast.wordpress.com</a><br />
44. Western District Families, <a href="http://mywdfamilies.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">mywdfamilies.wordpress.com</a><br />
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<strong>Professional genealogists</strong>
We love these blogs that offer a regular glimpse into the work being done in the family history world:<br />
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45. British Genes, <a href="http://britishgenes.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">britishgenes.blogspot.com</a><br />
46. Shauna Hicks, <a href="http://diaryofanaustraliangenealogist.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">diaryofanaustraliangenealogist.blogspot.com</a><br />
47. Geneabloggers, <a href="http://geneabloggers.com/" target="_blank">geneabloggers.com</a><br />
48. Irish Genealogy News, i<a href="http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.com</a><br />
49. Jayne Shrimpton, <a href="http://jayneshrimpton.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">jayneshrimpton.tumblr.com</a><br />
50. The Family Recorder, <a href="http://thefamilyrecorder.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">thefamilyrecorder.blogspot.com</a>
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Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-41996393592964078222013-01-31T22:00:00.000+11:002013-03-13T11:12:25.346+11:00Expert Q&A :: Getting the best from the State Library of NSWFor our Expert Q&A on Thursday, December 6 we had Tracy Bradford and Elise Edmonds from the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/statelibrarynsw" target="_blank">State Library of New South Wales</a> answering questions on how to get the best from the State Library of New South Wales collection. Thanks again to Tracy and Elise for their time and responses.<br />
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<li>Our website is a great starting point for information about the Library and our collections. From the home page you can directly access the printed books catalogue and the Manuscripts, Pictures and Oral History catalogue. The Library’s <a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/ask/index.html?HomeLink=Ask_A_Librarian" target="_blank">askalibrarian service</a> is also a great starting point, and this service can also be accessed directly from our home page. This is a free Information Request Service. </li>
<li>Sometimes cataloguing terms don’t always align with the way we might describe something, so think laterally when devising your catalogue search. Also look out in the catalogue record for subject headings and ‘see also’ references which might lead you to other records related to your research interests.</li>
<li>Sometimes you may need to broaden or narrow your search terms to find more information. For example, if you are researching WWI, a broad search terms might be ‘World War (1914-1918)’. Narrowing the search to particular campaigns (e.g. ‘Gallipoli Campaign (1915)’ or ‘Western Campaign (1914-1918)’ will help refine the search.</li>
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<li>Ask a Librarian Information Request Service: <a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/ask/index.html?HomeLink=Ask_A_Librarian" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/ask/index.html?HomeLink=Ask_A_Librarian</b></span></a></li>
<li>Australian Pictorial Thesaurus: <a href="http://www.picturethesaurus.gov.au/search.html" target="_blank"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.picturethesaurus.gov.au/search.html</span></b></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/statelibrarynsw" target="_blank">Facebook page of State Library of NSW</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/discover_collections/society_art/photography/holtermann/index.html" target="_blank">Holtermann Collection on SLNSW</a></li>
<li>National Library of Australia's digitisation list: <a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/content/newspaper-digitisation-program" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://www.nla.gov.au/content/newspaper-digitisation-program</b></span></a></li>
<li>Photograph of Arthur Charles Hall: <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/album/ItemViewer.aspx?itemid=971188&suppress=N&imgindex=1" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/album/ItemViewer.aspx?itemid=971188&suppress=N&imgindex=1</b></span></a></li>
<li>Pictorial material from Irene Victoria Read's collection on SLNSW :: <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=910142" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=910142</b></span></a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/" target="_blank">State Library of NSW homepage</a></li>
<li>SLNSW catalogue of <i>The Sunday Telegraph</i>: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b></b></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://library.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/o2812563" target="_blank">http://library.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/o2812563</a></b></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/about/collections/donations.html" target="_blank">SLNSW donation information</a></span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">SLNSW eresources :: list of databases </span></span><a href="http://www2.sl.nsw.gov.au/eresources/browse.cfm?subjects=6165" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://www2.sl.nsw.gov.au/eresources/browse.cfm?subjects=6165</b></span></a></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">SLNSW Family History guides: Convicts :: </span></span><a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/research_guides/convicts/index.html" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/research_guides/convicts/index.html</b></span></a></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/SimpleSearch.aspx" target="_blank">SLNSW Manuscripts, oral history & pictures catalogue</a></span><b></b></span></li>
<li>UNE Local, Family and Applied History course info: <a href="http://ow.ly/fRZ8z" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://ow.ly/fRZ8z</b></span></a></li>
<li>War diary :: Arthur Charles Hall's diary on SLNSW: <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=949742" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=949742</b></span></a></li>
<li>War diary :: Thomas Ray Crook's diary on SLNSW:<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=422493" target="_blank">http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=422493</a></b></span></li>
<li>War diary :: Transcript of Thomas Ray Crook's diary on SLNSW: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/_transcript/2011/D12349/a4630.htm#a4630008" target="_blank">http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/_transcript/2011/D12349/a4630.htm#a4630008</a></b></span></li>
<li>War photographs by Dr Herschel Harris on SLNSW :: <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=69814" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=69814</b></span></a></li>
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Our Expert Q&A with the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/statelibrarynsw" target="_blank">State Library of New South Wales</a> team starts in 15 minutes at 8:30pm AEDT. Tonight we’ll be discussing how to get the best from the SLNSW collection. Please ask your questions in a comment below and Tracy and Elise will answer in a comment.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Linda: Thanks to the link from Inside History, I had a look by searching for Gippsland in the image catalogue, and there is quite a bit there. In Victoria, local history collections around the state are increasingly returning items to their most appropriate area, if they do not fit their own collection policy - often in the hope someone will some day give them something they consider more suited to them. Do the state libraries have a similar exchange/repatriation policy? In other words, if there were no other considerations (such as part of larger collection), if the SLNSW had a diary written totally in Victoria, by a Victorian, would it offer it to the State Library of Victoria? What sorts of considerations would come to bear on making a decision such as that?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Elise: </b>Hi, @ Linda, that's a very interesting question... We don't really have this type of policy... Particularly with our WW1 diary collections, we purchased many of these directly after the War from all around the country. We wouldn't necessarily return these back to the original state... however these days, if we are offered material from Victoria, or another state, we would refer people to the State Library in that state.<br />
<b>A. Tracy: </b>@Linda, increasingly digitisation will allow us to 'virtually repatriate' collection material, as it will be available for researchers not just interstate but internationally as well.<br />
<b>A. Linda: </b>Thank you for that - I probably wasn't thinking WWI diaries, which were mainly written outside the country anyway, and are of national significance. Probably I was thinking more of things such as domestic diaries. I am trying hard to think what else fits - possibly manuscript material. So thank you - I think you have answered the question, and I appreciate that that happens.<br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>@Linda, yes, it's a really interesting question. It's certainly not something that we do regularly here at SLNSW...<br />
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Welcome everyone, thanks for joining us tonight. Please welcome Tracy and Elise from the State Library of New South Wales to tonight's Q&A.</div>
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<b>A. Linda: </b>Hello Tracy and Elsie - so glad you have come to talk with us. Thanks IH for the opportunity.</div>
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<b>A. Leonie: </b>Welcome Tracy and Elise!<br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>Thanks! Hi.<br />
<b>A. Tracy: </b>Hi everyone. It's great to be here and I'm looking forward to an interesting discussion.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Leanne: I would like to know if or when the Sunday Telegraph in Sydney for 1940 to 1945 are going to be put on trove. If not, what would be the easiest way of being able to get copies of a article that was in five of the 1940 Sunday paper and one article for each other year... In Feb 1940 the headline of the article was - 'He is two months old this week. The 1940 Baby.' Although I have all of the original photos that the newspaper took. I only have two of the actual articles. The rest were too damaged, beyond repair... the baby in the articles, is my dad.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>Hi, @Leanne Ferguson, it doesn't look like the Sunday Telegraph is currently available to be searched on Trove... There is a list of upcoming newspapers listed here on the National Library's website: <a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/content/newspaper-digitisation-program" target="_blank">http://www.nla.gov.au/content/newspaper-digitisation-program</a><br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>however @Leanne, you could check the microfilm version of the newspaper. Here is our catalogue record for the newspaper: <a href="http://library.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/o2812563" target="_blank">http://library.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/o2812563</a> You could also always request an inter-library loan of the specific microfilm reel, via your local public library.<br />
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<b>Comment: Sharon: </b>Hello all, sorry I'm a bit late... just about to catch up on the posts and then will think up some Q's!</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Sharon: Can you give some tips for searching for a particular person? Are there special unknown things that often bring up results?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Elise: </b>Hi @Sharon, you can always try typing in the persons last name into our catalogue - to see whether we hold diaries/letters/photographs by or about them... <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/SimpleSearch.aspx" target="_blank">http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/SimpleSearch.aspx</a></div>
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<b>Q (b): From Sharon: </b>Thanks Elise. Sadly nothing for my relative. Would you be interested in WW1 postcards? I'm not the holder of the collection.</div>
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<b>A. Elise: </b>@Sharon, we can always get the person to send a couple of photographs of the material to us - that's usually the first step for us in appraising material... They can send the photos and information to us here: <a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/about/collections/donations.html" target="_blank">http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/about/collections/donations.html</a></div>
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<b>A. Sharon: </b>Thanks Elise.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Margaret: I have my father's WW1 war diaries and I would like to see them preserved. Does the state library take them? I'm a Mosman local. Thank you.</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Tracy: </b>The State Library of NSW has been collecting WWI diaries and personal papers since 1918, thanks to the foresight of the Principal Librarian of the time, WH Ifould. We have one of the most significant collections of its type in Australia, and still actively collect this material. We are always very interested in discussing acquisitions with people who are looking for a 'forever home' for their treasured papers. There is a donations page on our website: <a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/about/collections/donations.html" target="_blank">http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/about/collections/donations.html</a></div>
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<b><i>Q. From Joan: What newspapers are online for counties such as Devon or Lincolnshire?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Elise: </b>@Joan, here at the State Library we do subscribe to many online databases, which include British newspapers from the 18th and 19th century. Here is the list of databases that might help you... <a href="http://www2.sl.nsw.gov.au/eresources/browse.cfm?subjects=6165" target="_blank">http://www2.sl.nsw.gov.au/eresources/browse.cfm?subjects=6165</a></div>
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<b>Q (b): From Joan: </b>Thank you. I presume we just use our card number to access them?</div>
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<b>A. Elise: </b>@Joan, yes, you'll need a Library card to login to these at home, or you can come into the Library to search them.</div>
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<i><b>Q. From IHM: Q. from twitter. Will you have your entire WW1 war diaries collection digitised for 2014?</b></i><br />
<b>A. Tracy: </b>The State Library has launched two multi-million dollar projects which will provide unprecedented, world-wide access to our state and nation’s most iconic and historically significant documents and objects, including our WWI collection of diaries, personal letters, pictorial material, posters and ephemera. The WWI collection will be digitised, and the diaires and letters transcribed, in time for the Centenary of the outbreak of the war.<br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>@Inside History Magazine... here is a diary that has recently been digitised. <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=422493" target="_blank">Thomas Ray Crook's</a> and the transcript for the whole diary is also accessible under each thumbnail image.... and is linked here: <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/_transcript/2011/D12349/a4630.htm#a4630008" target="_blank">http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/_transcript/2011/D12349/a4630.htm#a4630008</a><br />
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<b><i>Q. From IHM: Following on from Sharon's Q. What would be your top tips for using the SLNSW collections? What would be your top tips for using the SLNSW collections?</i></b></div>
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<li>Our website is a great starting point for information about the Library and our collections. From the home page you can directly access the printed books catalogue and the Manuscripts, Pictures and Oral History catalogue. The Library’s <a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/ask/index.html?HomeLink=Ask_A_Librarian" target="_blank">askalibrarian service</a> is also a great starting point, and this service can also be accessed directly from our home page. This is a free Information Request Service. </li>
<li>Sometimes cataloguing terms don’t always align with the way we might describe something, so think laterally when devising your catalogue search. Also look out in the catalogue record for subject headings and ‘see also’ references which might lead you to other records related to your research interests.</li>
<li>Sometimes you may need to broaden or narrow your search terms to find more information. For example, if you are researching WWI, a broad search terms might be ‘World War (1914-1918)’. Narrowing the search to particular campaigns (e.g. ‘Gallipoli Campaign (1915)’ or ‘Western Campaign (1914-1918)’ will help refine the search.</li>
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<b><i>Q. From Linda: Speaking of cataloguing terms - do you have your own thesaurus, with specific terms tailored to Australia/NSW. If you do, it wouldn't be online, would it?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>@Linda, we use the Australian Pictorial Thesaurus to describe our Pictures material <a href="http://www.picturethesaurus.gov.au/search.html" target="_blank">http://www.picturethesaurus.gov.au/search.html</a> and the Library of Congress subject headings (Pictures and manuscripts material)<br />
<b>Q (b): From Linda:</b> Thank you for that - I just went searching for one of my interests at the minute, which is a snake oil salesman by the name of Joseph Shires. I couldn't pick up anything in the picture thesaurus that covers snake oil salesmen, and I don't know if it is uniquely Australian term. I have trouble finding Mr Shires, as he has one of those surnames such as Black, Green, White, Shingles, Little and Wood, where the word turns up in everything. Any search tips for him?<br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>@Linda that is a very tricky term... I'm not sure if it is uniquely Australian, but it may require a bit more investigation...<br />
<b>A. Linda: </b>Thanks Elise - always interested in the perspective of others. Not that I was really hoping to find any snake oil salesmen in your catalogue. But you never know. <br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>@Linda, the only other term I can think of is con man... but that's not coming up...<br />
<b>A. Linda: </b>Neither is Quackery - one reference in 1970. Strange there is no Quackery in your records. <br />
<b>A. Wendy: </b>Linda, would 'travelling salesman' perhaps be a term used for a snake oil salesman?<br />
<b>A. Linda: </b>@Wendy - not sure - the vast majority of travelling salesmen were not quacks. Must talk to you about this bloke - think he was through your way in the 1860s.<br />
<b>A. Linda: </b>The other thing is this bloke was not so much as salesman as an entertainer - using the "experiments" he put on to sell his remedy. Really hard to define him with a subject term - or find similar people using a subject term. He was actually referred to at the time as a "snake charmer" - but that's not in there either. Oh, the fun you can have with subject headings!</div>
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<b>A. Tracy: </b>Favourite story? So many to choose from! One of my favourites is a WWI digger called Arthur Hall, who was awarded the Victoria Cross for his bravery at Peronne in September 1918. His diary was donated to the Library in October 2011 by his son. Arthur was from a tiny place called Coolabah in north-west NSW, and following the war was a very active member of his local community. He was a man of few words, as his diary attests, very humble and modest about the bravery which lead to him receiving the VC. Arthur's is our only VC winner's diary to date. <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=949742" target="_blank">http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=949742</a><br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>One of my favourite collections is a collection of photographs by a Sydney doctor who served at Gallipoli: Herschel Harris. His photographs have all been digitised and you can browse them all via the catalogue record: <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=69814" target="_blank">http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=69814</a><br />
<b>A. Tracy: </b>There's a great photo in our collection of Arthur Hall VC on the day of his investiture at Buckingham Palace: <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/album/ItemViewer.aspx?itemid=971188&suppress=N&imgindex=1" target="_blank">http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/album/ItemViewer.aspx?itemid=971188&suppress=N&imgindex=1</a><br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>Another nice little collection that has recently been digitised includes a sock knitting pattern from WW1 - produced by the Australian Comforts fund and called The Grey Sock... <a href="http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=910142" target="_blank">http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=910142</a><br />
<b>A. Linda: </b>Sock pattern sounds interesting - one collection I work with has the published kitting book from the Comforts Fund in WWII. Probably the same one, reissued - good to think a little more about its beginnings.<br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>@Linda, yes, probably quite similar. We had a Library volunteer follow the pattern and she made a pair of very comfortable woollen socks...<br />
<b>A. Sharon</b>: Love the Grey Sock book, patterns and photos! Great collections!<br />
<b>A. Linda: </b>We have an interest in those socks. We had a woman who for the duration of WWI knitted two pairs of socks a week, and made two singlets and two shirts, for the entire war, while three of her brothers and her fiancee were killed in action. She just kept knitting and sewing, and did the same in WWII. She never married, and willed the sewing machine that she used in WWI to the museum. I guess she would have worn out the knitting needles.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Leonie: My question is... How would I trace his lineage? I have a John/James Castle-convict arrived aboard the Scarborough-First Fleet b abt 1759 d 1803. He is mentioned in Capt Tenches diary of being an industrious person - classified as a Husbandman. He was classed as Independant, and off the Gov. supplies by 1790s. The only mention of his death is via the Sydney Gazette in 1803. Simeon Lord advertises his goods and chattels for sale stating that he had died. I have also been to State Records to try and glean more information from his very early probate-nothing there about his lineage. I have also searched the Old Bailey Records, and also the Hawkesbury Historical Society, and every other one within the region to find out more about him. He was noted as working at Puddle Dock in London at the time of his arrest. I'm hoping you may be able to help?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>@Leonie a starting point might be our research guide - how to search for NSW convicts, which is accessible here: <a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/research_guides/convicts/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/research_guides/convicts/index.html</a>, however it sounds as though you have already done a lot of research... You can always send us a query through our Ask a Librarian page: <a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/ask/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/ask/index.html</a><br />
<b>A. Sharon: </b>@Leonie, you might also be interested in a course at UNE called Convicts run by Dr David Roberts. It is on now but I'm not sure when it will be on next.<br />
<b>A. Christine: </b>@Leonie, you could ask for help regards his birth on the UK ancestry Facebook page - there are some terrific people who go out of their way to help there.<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Nice suggestion Sharon, here are the UNE details Leonie :: <a href="http://ow.ly/fRYKV" target="_blank">http://ow.ly/fRYKV</a> | <a href="http://ow.ly/fRZ8z" target="_blank">http://ow.ly/fRZ8z</a><br />
<b>A. Tracy: </b>Hi @Leonie. Coincidently I have a First Fleeter who also came on the Scarborough - Matthew Everingham. He was an attorney's clerk who was sentenced to 7 years transportation for stealing two books belonging to his employer. Ironic, perhaps, that I now work in a Library!<br />
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<b>A. Elise: </b>We are continuing to digitise our original materials: diaries, letters, pictures and related material, so that more and more of our collections can be accessible online, along with providing transcriptions to manuscript collections, such as our WW1 diaries...<br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>@Inside History Magazine, something to get really excited about that's coming in February is an exhibition on the internationally significant Holtermann photograph collection: <a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/discover_collections/society_art/photography/holtermann/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/discover_collections/society_art/photography/holtermann/index.html</a><br />
<b>A. Tracy: </b>Keep an eye out for our new AMAZE Gallery, which will open in March 2013 with an exhibition to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Sir William Dixson's bequest to the Library.<br />
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<b>A. Linda: </b>Thank you for the Q&A - all very interesting!<br />
<b>A. Sharon: </b>Thanks for a wonderful Q&A session again. I do really love these sessions.<br />
<b>A. Elise: </b>You're welcome! Thanks for having us.<br />
<b>A. Tracy: </b>Thanks everyone for a really interesting conversation; it's been fun.<br />
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<br />Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-62461998559852151352012-11-22T22:00:00.000+11:002013-01-24T14:09:59.885+11:00Expert Q&A :: Getting the most from findmypast Aust & NZFor our Expert Q&A on Thursday, November 22 we had Vicki Dawson, Rosemary Kopittke and Melissa Davison from <a href="http://www.findmypast.com.au/" target="_blank">findmypast.com.au Aust & NZ </a>answering questions on how to get the most from findmypast. Thanks again to Vicki, Rosemary and Melissa for their time and responses.<br />
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<li>My first tip would be - Don’t put in too much information to start with – “less” is often better; if you get too many results then refine using filters, a time span or keywords.</li>
<li>Another helpful tip is to remember that much of the data is available as searchable documents which have been digitised – so for that data first/last names don’t mean much to the search engine. Use the keywords – for example, james ainsworth (83 hits) and ainsworth james (289 hits) in the keywords will produce more meaningful results than putting those words into the name fields (3,104 hits).</li>
<li>And another - Search using both name and keyword fields – use the Record Type filter: search fully indexed data (Records) with the name fields and search the digitised data (Documents) with keywords and you will get much more useful results.</li>
<li>And one more ... Don’t use the Chrome browser for searches – you lose a lot of what the pdf documents can offer with the Chrome browser as it doesn’t highlight matches on the page or give you all the acrobat tools.</li>
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<li>Census of England and Wales, 1911, on Flickr: <a href="http://ow.ly/fuI9I" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://ow.ly/fuI9I</b></span></a></li>
<li><b><a href="https://www.facebook.com/findmypastAustralia" target="_blank">Facebook page of findmypast.com.au Aust & NZ</a></b></li>
<li><b><a href="http://www.findmypast.com.au/" target="_blank">findmypast Aust & NZ</a> </b></li>
<li>FMP World Records: <a href="http://www.findmypast.com.au/articles/world-records" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://www.findmypast.com.au/articles/world-records</b></span></a></li>
<li>Free 14 day trial at findmypast: <a href="http://ow.ly/fuI9I" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://ow.ly/fuI9I</b></span></a></li>
<li>History of Cockatoo Island Reform School: <a href="http://www.cockatooisland.gov.au/about/history-reform-school.html" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://www.cockatooisland.gov.au/about/history-reform-school.html</b></span></a></li>
<li>Irish Landed Estate Court Rentals, on Flickr: <a href="http://www.cockatooisland.gov.au/about/history-reform-school.html" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://www.cockatooisland.gov.au/about/history-reform-school.html</b></span></a></li>
<li>Mariners and Ships in Australian Waters: <a href="http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/</b></span></a></li>
<li>Package options at findmypast:<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b> <a href="https://www.findmypast.com.au/payments" target="_blank">https://www.findmypast.com.au/payments</a></b></span></li>
<li>Passenger list of <i>Ormuz </i>ship, 1892, on Flickr: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/insidehistory/8207265605/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/insidehistory/8207265605/</a> </span></b></li>
<li>Queensland Police Gazette, 1864-1900: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="https://www.findmypast.com.au/articles/world-records/full-list-of-australasian-records/institutions-and-organisations/queensland-police-gazette-1864-1900" target="_blank">https://www.findmypast.com.au/articles/world-records/full-list-of-australasian-records/institutions-and-organisations/queensland-police-gazette-1864-1900</a> </b></span></li>
<li>Tips on using findmypast Part 1: Basic Searching: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://ow.ly/fuw7S" target="_blank">http://ow.ly/fuw7S</a></b></span></li>
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Our Expert Q&A with the <a href="http://www.findmypast.com.au/" target="_blank">findmypast.com.au Australia & NZ</a> team starts in 15 minutes at 8:30pm AEDT. Tonight we’ll be discussing how to get the most from findmypast. Please ask your questions in a comment below & Vicki, Rosemary or Melissa will answer in a comment.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Rochell: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;"><span id=".reactRoot[134].[1][2][1]{comment561148767244700_1971428}..[1]..[1]..[0].[0][1]"> </span></span>In case I forget about the q and a. I have a question. I am trying to find an ancestor coming to Australia around 1893. I know he was at his brother's wedding in April of that year. But I can't find him coming in. Is there anywhere I can find a list of major ships coming from London around that time?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Rochell: </b>I found him on the findmypast.com.au site. I hope it is him and not a crew member. I tried to become a member of the site but it didn't like my email address. So now I can't find out anymore details :( this is what I got. I would love a month. If poss. His name was WM STRUTHERS <b>(Refer to Appendix A)</b><br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Blog from Rosemary Kopittke :: Part 1: Tips for using <a href="https://www.facebook.com/findmypastAustralia" target="_blank">findmypast.com.au Aust & NZ</a> :: <a href="http://ow.ly/fuw7S" target="_blank">http://ow.ly/fuw7S</a> - lots more tips in tonight's Q&A!</div>
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<b>A. Rosemary: </b>@Rochell Your Wm Suthers on the Ormuz in 1892 was definitely a passenger and not crew - <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/insidehistory/8207265605/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/insidehistory/8207265605/</a> shows the page from the passenger list.</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Thanks Rosemary. For everyone else, here's Rochell's question from yesterday: "I am trying to find an ancestor coming to Australia around 1893. I know he was at his brother's wedding in April of that year. But I can't find him coming in. Is there anywhere I can find a list of major ships coming from London around that time? I found him on the findmypast.com.au site. I hope it is him and not a crew member. I tried to become a member of the site but it didn't like my email address. So now I can't find out anymore details :( this is what I got. I would love a month. If poss. His name was WM STRUTHERS".</div>
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<b>A. Rosemary:</b> @Rochell Interesting that the passenger list shows Wm Struthers entry as struck out suggesting he did not board. A comment from the specialist in the area says: I’d say that the married 27-yr old Scotsman Wm Struthers didn’t board the Ormuz bound for Sydney NSW in October 1892. Normally, however, in my experience when one sees a struck-out passenger, one would expect to find him on a voyage departing within the next few weeks.</div>
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<b>A. Rosemary: </b>One of my family was struck off a passenger list - he actually boarded in London instead of Liverpool a few weeks later - he and his wife came on separate ships and met in Brisbane at the end of the voyage - Robert had a new son born on the voyage when he met his wife again.</div>
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Welcome everyone, thanks for joining us tonight. Please welcome Vicki, Melissa and Rosemary from <a href="https://www.facebook.com/findmypastAustralia" target="_blank">findmypast.com.au Aust & NZ</a> to tonight's Q&A.</div>
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<b>A. Vicki: </b>Good evening!</div>
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<b>A. Melissa: </b>Hello</div>
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<b>A. Carmel: </b>Hi all</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Trish: Hi Rosemary, Vicki & Melissa. Does Findmypast have access to different records than other genealogy sites?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Vicki: </b>@Trish, yes we have many records that are exclusive to findmypast so you won’t find them elsewhere.</div>
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<b>A. Rosemary: </b>@Trish It does have many unique records not available elsewhere - Police and Government Gazettes for all Australian sites and and hundres of directories just to name a few - lots of exciting information in those records not easily accessible even in hard copy in libraries.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Kerryn: G'day. I'm not yet a subscriber to findmypast. How does it differ to ancestry?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Vicki: </b>@Kerryn, many records you’ll find on findmypast are exclusive to us so you won’t find them elsewhere. Of course, you may need to use both sites as Ancestry will also have records that are exclusive to them. We do offer additional options other than an annual subscription including PayAsYouGo credits which start from $12.95 for 100 credits which gives you flexibility without locking into a subscription.</div>
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<b>A. Rosemary: </b>An example of records unique to FMP is the Queensland Police Gazettes - great details on criminals, victims and others - a good description at <a href="https://www.findmypast.com.au/articles/world-records/full-list-of-australasian-records/institutions-and-organisations/queensland-police-gazette-1864-1900" target="_blank">https://www.findmypast.com.au/articles/world-records/full-list-of-australasian-records/institutions-and-organisations/queensland-police-gazette-1864-1900</a> (more years available than yet described there)</div>
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<b>A. Kerryn: </b>Thanks Vicki that sounds great. How many credits does it take to access a record or are they all different?</div>
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<b>A. Vicki: </b>@Kerryn, it varies depending on the record. You can view the costs here - <a href="https://www.findmypast.com.au/payments" target="_blank">https://www.findmypast.com.au/payments</a>. Scroll down and click on ‘How much does it cost to view the records?’</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Carmel: So Rosemary how would I find crew members? I have a feeling I may have a couple. Henry Barwise arrived sometime between 1851 (English Census) and 1857 when an advertisment appears in Maryborough for an unclaimed letter. He came from a family of mariners although he and his father were both printers. Also I have one from Sweden who I believe has changed his name. His Naturalisation papers say he arrived in 1863 on the Triton but I have not found a record for this ship at this time.</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Rosemary: </b>@Carmel The passenger records on FMP start only in 1890 when the Board of Trade records commence - anything before that will have to come from other sources. I know some crew are listed, for example, on lists lodged with the Customs House in Brisbane and held by the National Archives. Perhaps they have similar lists for other states.</div>
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<b>A. Carmel: </b>Mine are Victorian and still asking questions. They will be there somewhere I am sure. I do seem to come from a family of swimmers.</div>
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<b>A. Rosemary: </b>@Carmel I understand your problem! I had a fellow who was a pilot - couldn't find him for a long time but he definitely didn't fly.</div>
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<b>A. Kerry: </b>Hi - anyone looking for crew, from about 1845 up until immigration became a function of Commonwealth government (end of 1922) should have a look at <a href="http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/" target="_blank">http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/</a> - based around NSW records, but not only theirs.</div>
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<b>A. Carmel: </b>@Rosemary I have a couple married in London 10 days after arriving in Victoria in 1858, they would have flown home for the wedding!</div>
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<b>A. Rosemary: </b>@Carmel Sounds interesting - I haven't heard of anything like that before; looks like it requires further investigation.</div>
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<b>A. Carmel: </b>Actually Rosemary I do not think they did marry. He met her at the ship in Melbourne, the marriage comes from the children's birth certificates, always the same date but one in London one in Melbourne, but no record to be found.<br />
<b>A. Rosemary: </b>@Carmel Sounds a bit like some of my family where the children didn't really know the facts - said their mother was born in Ipswich, Queensland when she had been born in England. We can't believe everything on certificates - unfortunately. We need to check multiple sources for each piece of information where that is possible.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Carol: Can anyone answer this general question... Apart from the prison husks does anyone know some other uses for abandoned ships that sat in Hobsons Bay in 1852? (This is for a setting in a novel l'm attempting)</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Carmel: </b>Carol I may be wrong but I have a feeling there was one used for abandoned children?</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Hi Carol, Carmel is right - there was a hulk called the Vernon which housed orphan boys off Cockatoo Island: <a href="http://www.cockatooisland.gov.au/about/history-reform-school.html" target="_blank">http://www.cockatooisland.gov.au/about/history-reform-school.html</a></div>
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<b>A. Carol: </b>One of the prison hulks was a reform school. Yes. And kids complain today! Thanks.<br />
<b>A. Wendy: </b>G'day ,I was looking thru a book of mine that has been in storage for 8yrs and came across 2 pages of photos and a small amount of info on the 'Nautical Training Ships' ... 'one solution to ridding Sydney of it's young pariahs or 'Street Arabs' was to put them aboard nautical training ships moored in the harbour' . Photo's show the 'Vernon' and 'Sobraon' . Book is called The Young Australians .Australian children since 1788 .John Larkins & Bruce Howard 1981. Some one was asking about these ships in a Q&A recently . The photos are credited to the New South Wales Government Printer .<br />
<b>A. IHM:</b> <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/25151712?versionId=30323645" target="_blank">Click here for link to "<i>The Young Australians</i>" on Trove</a></b></div>
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<b>A. IHM: <a href="http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/entity.aspx?path=%5Cagency%5C411" target="_blank">Click here for more info on the ship <i>Vernon</i> on State Records NSW</a></b><br />
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<b><i>Q. From IHM: Does <a href="https://www.facebook.com/findmypastAustralia">findmypast.com.au Aust & NZ</a> have Birth Death & Marriage records?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Melissa: </b>In our Australian records the Birth, Marriage & Death records mostly cover cemetery records. Although these are not formal records of birth, death and marriages, the cemetery records often provide dates of birth and death, along with extensive information on the person and their family. However we have UK birth, death and marriage records available.</div>
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<b>A. Melissa: </b>We also have pre-civil records for SA which have very recently been added to findmypast.com.au and we expect to have Australian BDMs available next year, it is a top priority.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From IHM: We're always being asked what's new on findmypast & what's coming next - what do you have in the pipeline that we should be excited about?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Vicki:</b> We’ve recently added over 56 million new records for Australia & New Zealand and currently have so much in the pipeline that there’s a lot to be excited about! I can’t list them all but here is a teaser of what you can expect in coming months. The remaining existing records from the UK site and British Newspapers. From The National Archives in UK - British Army Pensioners - Kilmainham, Ireland, 1783-1822 which has been digitised for the first time as well as one of my favourites - our “bad boy collection” which will contain approx. 1.8m images and 3.1m criminal justice records. Irish BDMs & from the US - World War II records, 10m more World War I Draft Registration Cards and BDMs from the 1600s to the present day. And of course millions of new records for Australia & New Zealand – keep an eye out for an announcement shortly regarding new Australian records which will be digitised for the first time and exclusive to findmypast!<br />
<b>A. Vicki: </b>We recently launched a 14 day free trial so if you haven’t already go give it a go for free!<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>The Irish BDMs sound interesting, I have not been able to find anything on my Irish Ancestors<br />
<b>A. Rosemary: </b>@Carmel If you have a subscription to the World Collection you will be able to access the Irish records through findmypast.com.au<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>It was thanks to findmypast that I finally found the birth of my gg grandfather and found he did not even know his own name after I found he did not know his mother's name either. He always said his name was Alfred Benjamin Woodhead when he was registered and baptised Alfred Townley Woodhead. I am now trying to find out who Alfred Townley was, sounds like someone well known to Alfred's parents.<br />
<b>A. Kerry: </b>I've found ancestors in the Irish Petty Sessions records, and some wonderful information about an entailment to a direct ancestor (that named their age, marriage date, residence & more) in the Irish Landed Estates records.<br />
<b>A. Vicki: </b>@Kerry - Great to hear!<br />
<b>A. Vicki: </b>@Carmel - wonderful to hear of your success!<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>Yes he had his mother as Sarah Taylor, His mother was Isabella Jenkinson who died when Alfred was only 10 mths old. His father married Sarah Clarke so I am guessing this is where the Sarah came from and wonder if the Taylor was not linked somehow to the Townley. Amazing how one answer leads to a dozen questions! I have been doing this for 35 years and still looking for more. It amazes me when people say I have done my family tree.<br />
<b>A. Rosemary:</b> @Kerry Kerry mentioned about some interesting Irish records she has recently examined. The following link will give a glimpse at what you might expect to see in the Landed Estate Court Rentals - when bankrupt property were put up for auction and the tenants and everybody associated with the property were named (not just the owners). Great records not available anywhere else. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/insidehistory/8207346969" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/insidehistory/8207346969</a><br />
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<b><i>Q. From Michelle: Are there plans for FMP UK AUS & IRL to amalgamate? It would be easier to search the one database and have the one logon?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Vicki: </b>@Michelle – Yes!! We hope to have them amalgamated in the first quarter of next year.<br />
<b>A Vicki: </b>@Michelle - I should add to my previous comment that your login for AU, IE or US will work on each of those sites. All of the records from each of those sites are now available on findmypast.com.au and approx. 80% of the UK records with the remaining coming over the next few months. You can see the full list of what’s available here - <a href="http://www.findmypast.com.au/articles/world-records" target="_blank">http://www.findmypast.com.au/articles/world-records</a></div>
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<b><i>Q. From IHM:</i></b><b> <i>Can you combine single subscriptions to get a World Collection subscription?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Melissa: </b>Separate subscriptions for AU/NZ, UK & IE cannot be combined or transferred to one subscription, members will need to wait until their subscriptions expire before upgrading to one of the packages.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Kerryn: I've just signed up for free and made a boo boo already. Can I change the name of my tree I used my married name instead of maiden surname.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Melissa: </b>@Kerryn, You can update your details from the "My Account" section located in your menu bar then in the drop down menu select "Personal Details".<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's the link to the 14 day free trial :: <a href="http://ow.ly/fuI9I" target="_blank">http://ow.ly/fuI9I</a><br />
<b>Q (b): From Kerryn:</b> Is it possible to change to pay as you go once free trial period is over?<br />
<b>A. Melissa: </b>@Kerryn you need to cancel your FREE trial before the trial period ends otherwise the subscription will automatically be debited from your credit card. You can do this easily by selecting "My Account" from the menu bar and then selecting "My subscription" from the drop down tab, you will see the option to cancel. Once this is done you can purchase your pay per view credits.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Merilyn: Hi all I am enjoying all your comments and learning lots. I have found both ancestry and fmp both good sources of info. Keep up the good work. My brick wall is my gg grandfather who was a Mariner in Kent UK. Any ideas?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Rosemary: </b>Merilyn Mariners can certainly be difficult. Not listed in all the censuses so tricky. Findmypast UK does have some Crew Lists though so it could be worth checking there.<br />
<b>Q (b): Merilyn: </b>Thanks Rosemary. I know from past experience he won't come up if I just enter his name. Can you specify crew lists? What is the best way for Mariners?<br />
<b>A. Rosemary: </b>@Merilyn Crew lists 1861-1913 appear under Education and Work on findmypast UK<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Jonathan: Are there any plans on FMP to implement a citation button for a record? We all know how important it is to include citations when referencing data, making this information available to all would only enhance the product.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Vicki: </b>@Jonathan. Not that I’m aware of but will certainly take up with the development team.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From IHM: Time flies! 2 last questions then. 1) What would be your top tips for researching your ancestors with findmypast?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Rosemary's top tips: </b><br />
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<li style="font-weight: normal;">My first tip would be - Don’t put in too much information to start with – “less” is often better; if you get too many results then refine using filters, a time span or keywords.</li>
<li style="font-weight: normal;">Another helpful tip is to remember that much of the data is available as searchable documents which have been digitised – so for that data first/last names don’t mean much to the search engine. Use the keywords – for example, james ainsworth (83 hits) and ainsworth james (289 hits) in the keywords will produce more meaningful results than putting those words into the name fields (3,104 hits).</li>
<li style="font-weight: normal;">And another - Search using both name and keyword fields – use the Record Type filter: search fully indexed data (Records) with the name fields and search the digitised data (Documents) with keywords and you will get much more useful results.</li>
<li style="font-weight: normal;">And one more ... Don’t use the Chrome browser for searches – you lose a lot of what the pdf documents can offer with the Chrome browser as it doesn’t highlight matches on the page or give you all the acrobat tools.</li>
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<b>A. Merilyn: </b>Wow, thanks will certainly give all those ideas a try :)<img src="https://s-static.ak.facebook.com/images/blank.gif" /><br />
<b>A. Kerryn: </b>I'm a bit disappointed about the chrome browser as it is my default browser.<br />
<b>A. Vicki: </b>@Kerryn, the Chrome issue is only when viewing documents. Unfortunately it's an issue with Adobe and you lose some functionality that is really useful in Internet Explorer.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Michelle: Has FMP thought about a providing a knowledge page? Where researchers can check their knowledge? Would help people learn more about the resources.</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Vicki: </b>@Michelle. We’re shortly going to be revising our help & advice sections to include tutorials, knowledge base and other useful information.</div>
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<i><b>Q. From IHM:</b> </i><b><i>So, we'll finish with some fun! 2) What is your favourite story you’ve found on findmypast?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Vicki: </b>With so many records available it’s hard to choose a favourite but I would have to say I love the sense of humour of a John Charles Belton who included his cat on the 1911 Census as: Peter Tabby, relationship to family – servant, 6 months old, occupation mouser, nationality Persian! He obviously wasn’t intimidated by the enumerator…. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/insidehistory/8207069167" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/insidehistory/8207069167</a><br />
<b>A. Rosemary: </b>One of my favourite stories is about a fellow who filled in his census form and was found dead when the collector came around the next morning - tragic really.</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Leave them laughing & with a tear in their eye Rosemary, that's a great story!<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>eek I did the census here a few years back and had a similar story, went to collect the forms and walked into a funeral.<br />
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<b>Comment: IHM:</b> Thanks again to the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/findmypastAustralia">findmypast.com.au Aust & NZ</a> team for joining us tonight! We’ll publish the questions, answers & links from tonight’s session in a blog post soon.</div>
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<b>A. Carmel: </b>Thanks to @Rosemary I have found that the Triton was in Newcastle NSW about 3 weeks after My John Johnson claims he landed in Aus on this ship. It had left from Warnambool with only a few crew members, now how do I trace it back to Warnambool to see if John was on it? I feel I am a bit closer to finding him.<br />
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<b>Next Week: </b>Who's joining us for next Thursday's Expert Q&A? Find out how to use the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/naagovau" target="_blank">National Archives of Australia</a> defence records. Join us here with your questions next Thursday.</div>
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Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960<br />
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Country: AUSTRALIA | Title: MR<br />
State: New South Wales | Ship Name: ORMUZ<br />
Birth Year: 1865 | Age: 27<br />
Ship Departure Port: LONDON | Destination Port: SYDNEY<br />
Departure Year: 1892<br />
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Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-60863670830508436362012-11-20T16:00:00.002+11:002012-11-20T16:00:36.722+11:00Your favourite history book :: NYR 2012To celebrate the <b><a href="http://www.love2read.org.au/" target="_blank">National Year of Reading 2012</a></b>, we asked you to tell us your favourite non-fiction history books. Now, after a nail-biting few months of voting, it’s time to announce your winner. Drum roll, please…<br />
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In first place came Michael Flynn’s <i><b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/8479345?q=The+Second+Fleet%3A+Britain%27s+grim+convict+armada+of+1790&c=book" target="_blank">The Second Fleet: Britain’s Grim Convict Armada of 1790</a></b></i> (Library of Australian History, 1993), a tremendous feat of meticulous research into more than 1,500 individuals who were on board the tragic Second Fleet.<br />
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It remains a seminal work. It’s also now out of print, but check with your local library, which might have a copy you can borrow, or organise an inter-library loan for you. <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/8479345?q=The+Second+Fleet%3A+Britain%27s+grim+convict+armada+of+1790&c=book" target="_blank">Click here to find a copy at your library on Trove</a></b>.<br />
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“<i>Many thanks to the readership of Inside History for their support</i>,” says Michael. “<i>Revised versions of the First and Second Fleet books are ongoing, assisted by feedback from some of the thousands of descendants of these early colonists. Coming soon: a website with updates and information to be called Botany Bay Bound.</i>” Stay tuned, we’ll bring you more news soon!<br />
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And "<i><b><a href="http://www.exislepublishing.com.au/In-Her-Own-Words.html" target="_blank">In Her Own Words: The Writings of Elizabeth Macquarie</a></b>"</i> (<b><a href="http://www.exislepublishing.com.au/" target="_blank">Exisle Publishing</a></b>, 2011) by Robin Walsh is an important recent work.<br />
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Though our list is by no means definitive, we’d like to thank everyone who voted. We enjoyed your suggestions, and even managed to add a few books to our must-read list — hopefully you have, too. <br />
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<li>Europeana API: <a href="http://pro.europeana.eu/api" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://pro.europeana.eu/api</b></span></a></li>
<li>Expert Q&A with digital historian Tim Sherratt: <a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/expert-q-todays-toolkit-for-digital_21.html" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/expert-q-todays-toolkit-for-digital_21.html</b></span></a></li>
<li>Libraries Australia contact form: <a href="http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?pmi=UGSBky1Wle" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?pmi=UGSBky1Wle</b></span></a></li>
<li>List of titles coming soon to Trove: <a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/content/new-titles-coming" target="_blank"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.nla.gov.au/content/new-titles-coming</span></b></a></li>
<li>National Library of Australia Newspaper Plan: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/australian-newspaper-plan" target="_blank">http://www.nla.gov.au/australian-newspaper-plan</a></b></span></li>
<li>National Library of Australia Newspaper Digitisation Selection Policy: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/content/selection-policy" target="_blank">http://www.nla.gov.au/content/selection-policy</a></b></span></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/srnsw" target="_blank">State Records NSW Facebook page</a></li>
<li>Pictures Australia in Trove: <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/general/australian-pictures-in-trove" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://trove.nla.gov.au/general/australian-pictures-in-trove</b></span></a></li>
<li>Powerhouse Museum API: <a href="http://api.powerhousemuseum.com/login/?next=/" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://api.powerhousemuseum.com/login/?next=/</b></span></a> </li>
<li>State Records NSW API: <a href="http://api.records.nsw.gov.au/" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://api.records.nsw.gov.au/</b></span></a></li>
<li>Trove: Australia in Pictures Flickr group: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/pictureaustralia_ppe/" target="_blank"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.flickr.com/groups/pictureaustralia_ppe/</span></b></a></li>
<li>Trove contact form: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=TROVE" target="_blank"><b>http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=TROVE</b></a></span></li>
<li>Trove home page: <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/" target="_blank"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://trove.nla.gov.au/</span></b></a> </li>
<li>Trove List on Harold Williams: <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/list?id=9823" target="_blank"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://trove.nla.gov.au/list?id=9823</span></b></a></li>
<li>Trove Advanced Search: <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y</b></span></a></li>
<li>Trove search box to add to your website/blog: <a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/media/trove/add-trove-to-your-website.html" target="_blank"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.nla.gov.au/media/trove/add-trove-to-your-website.html</span></b></a></li>
<li>Trove search of 'John Goopy' using fulltext syntax: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=fulltext%3A%28%22mr+john+goopy%22%7E2%29" target="_blank">http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=fulltext%3A%28%22mr+john+goopy%22~2%29</a></b></span></li>
<li>Wragge [Tim Sherratt] Trove tools:<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"> <a href="http://discontents.com.au/" target="_blank"><b>http://discontents.com.au/</b></a></span></li>
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Our Expert Q&A with Virginia James and Mark Raadgever from the <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/" target="_blank">Trove</a> team starts in 15 minutes at 8:30pm AEDT. Topic: Getting even more from Trove. Please ask your questions in a comment below and Virginia or Mark will answer in a following comment.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Christine: Hi there, my research turned up a story, reported in an article in a WA newspaper, called 'peeps at people' the story was about a Gallipoli soldier who eventually ended up as a guide at Galipolii, having had a bad time, prisoner of war etc, I would really like to know who he was.</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Christine, Wow, what a fascinating story. I take it no names were mentioned.</div>
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<b>Q (b): From Christine: </b>there is a photo in Bart Ziinos book of the Irwin family on a pilgrimage to Gallipoli showing them doing a grave rubbing, cannot find the image in Trove or eleswhere, ideas?</div>
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<b>A. Virginia:</b> @Christine, Hmmm... difficult one. If the image hasn't been contributed separately to Trove apart from the book you won't be able to find it in Trove. So it may not exist as a digitised image on its own. Even if it is, it may have a different title from the caption in the book so it might be in Trove but need different search terms to find it.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Alexandra: Hi there...I would like to get more involved in the Trove community...I think I understand what the text corrections are about ...but what are the images and the lists? Also is it possible to set up an automated search in Trove - a bit like Google?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Mark: </b>@Alexandra In answer to your three questions 1) Images are photographs (or scans) that are added by individuals to the Trove: Australia in Pictures Flickr group (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/pictureaustralia_ppe/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/groups/pictureaustralia_ppe/</a>), images uploaded to this group appear in Trove after about 2 weeks, as long as they meet certain requirements. 2) Lists are a list of items found in Trove that a user has collated to make it easier for people to find items that are related, for example <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/list?id=9823" target="_blank">http://trove.nla.gov.au/list?id=9823</a> is a list of newspaper articles about Harold Williams the singer. These can be created by anyone, and are particularly useful for sharing relevant items with other people. 3) You can't set up an automated search in the same way that Google does, however you can subscribe to an RSS feed that notifies you when any new items are added to Trove which match your search. The link to this appears at the bottom of your search results. This feed can be set to just results in a specific zone, or for results across all zones.</div>
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<b>A. Alexandra:</b> Mark - thank you so much - that's great news....I forgot to say thank you to both of you and the whole NLA team ....Trove is so fantastic ...I bore people witless raving about it....</div>
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<b>A. Alexandra:</b> Oooh and I've just discovered your Trove search box which I've just put on my blog...that's useful too...thanks.</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>The search box is on our blog as well, Alexandra. Here's the link for everyone else: Add a Trove search box to your website :: <a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/media/trove/add-trove-to-your-website.html" target="_blank">http://www.nla.gov.au/media/trove/add-trove-to-your-website.html</a></div>
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<b>A. Chris:</b> I have it also, and every now and then someone tells me how handy it is.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Rosemary: Often multiple lines of an article (eg those in the Family Notices) are missed in the OCR process - is there any way that the OCR can be redone or is the only option to manually correct the entries ourselves? </i></b></div>
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<b>A. Virginia:</b> @Rosemary, Unfortunately no. We don't have the resources available to send items back for re-scanning so that's why we love our volunteer text correctors so much!</div>
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<b>A. Rosemary:</b> The association of the text with the correct line on the page is generally very good but I have seen some where it is completely unrelated - I have to find the entry by looking for the name of interest. Fortunately not common and I can live with that given all the interesting facts I'm learning about my families.</div>
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<b>A. Mark:</b> @Rosemary The information on the lines is based on the output of the OCR engine, which provides each line and word on the page a set of co-ordinates (like a map), if there is an error in the information supplied by the OCR engine, then this may result in the images not quite matching up. Also, if the match is a 'fuzzy' match, these are often not highlighted in either the article text or the article image, you can use your browser 'find' feature to find the items in the text. Also, if a user has changed the text without respecting the original lines (this is permissible if there are not enough lines in the OCR text compared to the original article, however the start of the lines should match where the line is highlighted on the page), this disassociation can also occur. However, the exact reason for any specific article is difficult to say without viewing the article itself</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Fiona: Hi I adore Trove - it's a fabulous resource for researching my family tree. I'm wondering why there isn't much post WW2? Thanks</i></b></div>
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<b><i>Q. From Chris: Hi, I'm an avid user of Trove but I need some guidance that you might be able to help with. When I google a name, I can just write it as 'john goopy' + Queensland and for the most part, that's what I will get ...with Mr. Goopy and J Goopy but not much else. When I do this with Trove, I get all manner of Goopys... the bane of my life, don't laugh Cass... How can I get more direct reposnes?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Chris: </b>Or responses :-)<img src="https://s-static.ak.facebook.com/images/blank.gif" /></div>
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<b>A. Mark: </b>@Chris: to reduce the number of results you get in Trove, you may wish to do a phrase search - put the search terms in quote marks (e.g. "John Goopy") to find only those results where the two words appear one after the other, otherwise, you may like to try a 'near' search with an honorific (e.g. Mr) to find only those results which mention a Mr Goopy - for example "Mr Goopy"~2, will find all articles where Mr and Goopy appear within 2 words of each other... You may also need to use the fulltext: syntax to drop some of the less relevant results - see <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=fulltext%3A%28%22mr+john+goopy%22%7E2%29" target="_blank">http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=fulltext%3A%28%22mr+john+goopy%22~2%29</a> for an example</div>
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<b>A. Chris: </b>Thank you, a simple change to what I have been trying certainly helps. Wish I'd asked before. Love OCR... it's often more interesting than the initial reports, even more than my typos. It's good that we have so many correcting though, something I do each time I search, even if it's only a few lines. Thank you for your time.</div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Chris, LOL, I think you might be the first person to say the OCR is sometimes more interesting than the original! And thank you so much for your corrections! Every single one counts!</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Michelle:</i> <i>Is there a possibility of correcting text in a block (like in the Text box) rather than lines separately?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Mark: </b>@Michelle This is not something that we intend to introduce at this point in time. The text corrections are completed line-by-line as each line of text is linked to a specific location on the image, and it is not currently possible for us to match these locations with a basic text block rather than the line-by-line system.</div>
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<b>A. Mark:</b> This is what allows us to highlight the search results both in the article text and in the original newspaper image</div>
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<b>A. Michelle: </b>Thanks @Mark- was just a bit of wishful thinking.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From IHM:</i></b> <b><i>Virginia, is there a way to search specifically for images in a newspaper?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>Sure is! Using the Advanced search screen (<a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y" target="_blank">http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y</a>) you have the option to search in captions only, and to restrict your search to illustrated articles only. The restriction on this is that advertising does not have the illustrations identifed, so this can't be used to find display advertising. You may also use the 'illustrated' facet to restrict your results to illustrated articles, then select a type of illustration.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Alexandra:</i></b> <b><i>Mark/Virginia - how do you choose which newspapers to digitise next?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Mark: </b>@Alexandra This process is actually completed by the Newspapers Digitisation Program team (who do an excellent job with the complexities of the digitisation), in consultation with state and territory libraries - more information can be found on the ANDP website at <a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/content/selection-policy" target="_blank">http://www.nla.gov.au/content/selection-policy</a></div>
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<b><i>Q. From Alison: Do they have plans to collate all the Digger photos under a single catalogue item to make for easier searching. I know newspapers in Brisbane and other port cities often did one page or 2 page spreads of Expeditionary Forces prior to embarkation, using studio portraits, with captions underneath cropped photos just showing the men's faces. I did some text corrections to some Brisbane issues last year, but having trouble now doing an all states search for them for someone else.</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Alison's question: No, no we don't, but... *big smile* We'd love to have someone create a list of the Digger photos that would make it a single searchable item. So, Alison, there's a challenge for you!</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Kathy: When I ask for an email to be sent to me when a page is finished being digitised, the time frame given is up to 1 month. Does this need to be revised at all? I am sure I've been waiting longer for notification for some pages.</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Mark:</b> @Kathy One month is a 'normal' timeframe if the batch that contains the article passes the final quality check, then this should normally be completed within 28 days, if the batch fails the quality check then it can take a lot longer (up to 28 days every time it is resubmitted, the most I've seen is a batch that had to be resubmitted 5 times). If the batch fails the check after you submit your email address, then you will receive notification when the page is available, if it passes, you will get notification that the specific article is available.</div>
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<b>Comment: Chloe:</b> I haven't got a specific question but I'm reading through the comments, learning new things from all the other questions. Thanks!</div>
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<b>A. Mark:</b> @Chloe Glad to hear that you're getting some tips and ideas from the questions.</div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Chloe, not ignoring you! Are you still getting good stuff from this? If you have any questions you'd like us to answer that you don't want to raise here, just shoot us a message via the <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact" target="_blank">Contact Us form</a>. </div>
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<b><i>Q. From Virginia:</i></b> <b><i>So... just wondering... does anyone use the rest of Trove? I think the other zones are feeling neglected. ;)<img src="https://s-static.ak.facebook.com/images/blank.gif" /></i></b></div>
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<b>A. Virginia:</b> I only ask because we often have pictures of service men and various ships that may interest family historians.</div>
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<b>A. Alexandra: </b>Oh no, don't you worry Virginia, I use Trove for finding books at the public library where I work..we love it...it's the tool we use the most after our own catalogue I think it is fair to say....and I recommend it to all our patrons...I particularly love it for images too...</div>
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<b>A. Alexandra:</b> If I have any problems it's usually with the archived websites....I click on the links but I never seem to get anywhere with them...I'm not a very experienced user obviously....</div>
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<b>A. IHM:</b> We're always pointing people to books & libraries via Trove and don't tell anyone but we use Trove to search other libraries catalogues instead of their systems... And of course there's all the pictures we find on Trove as well!</div>
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<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>A. Wendy: </b></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">I always do a 'complete' search first cause you never know what else is there :)</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><img src="https://s-static.ak.facebook.com/images/blank.gif" style="cursor: move;" /></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">I also redo the same search occassionaly to catch new stuff ... found a beautiful photo just last week of my great grandfather with convict leg irons he found on a skeleton , the photo is held by Tas State library . It wasn't there the time before , so has been added recently. My maiden name is Frerk, so that make things easier ;)</span></b></div>
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<b>A. Mark:</b> @Alexandra The archived websites can be a bit interesting to use, the are a snapshot of the website at a particular point in time, so many of the links on the pages will be broken. If you have a specific problem, please use the contact us form so that we can provide more specific results.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Carmel: I heard the other day where some have tried to fix the text and completely changed the story so their ancestor does not sound bad! this does not change the facts at all but corrections are checked before being authorised is this correct? I never thought of this and think the idea funny, luckily the original article cannot be changed anyway. I usually read the original and only revert to the ocr if I am having trouble reading it as well.</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Virginia:</b> @Carmel, Ack! If you see this sort of thing you should contact us via the contact us form and we'll look into it! We've been pretty lucky with not much 'vandalism' and yes it's true the original can't be changed, but still!</div>
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<b>A. Virginia:</b> But no, we do not check the text before the corrections are authorised.</div>
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<b>A. Carmel</b>: have not come across it myself but someone did remark that some had tried. Why get in the way of a good story and I would be recorrecting if it was one of mine.</div>
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<b>A. Mark:</b> @Carmel There have been a few occurrences where similar things have happened, though not in the way you've mentioned, so it does happen.</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Tony: Hi Guys, when I use the advanced search or a basic search and then the qualifiers on the left side I often want to limit my search to articles 100-1000 words and <1000 words. This requires two searches or one without limiting article length and full of unwanted items. Is there any way to incorporate a search button for both?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Virginia:</b> @Tony, give me a sec to digest that one. So you basically want to limit to results that are between 100 to 1000 words and then results less than 1000 words? Isn't that the same thing?</div>
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<b>A. Virginia:</b> Oh! Sorry, did you mean greater than 1000 words?</div>
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<b>A. Virginia:</b> @Tony, yes, it's possible but it's probably best if you contact us via the contact us form <a href="http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?pmi=UGSBky1Wle" target="_blank">http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?pmi=UGSBky1Wle</a> for us to answer that one.</div>
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<b>A. Tony:</b> Hi. No that was 100-1000 and over 1000 words... so that would be >1000. Apoloies</div>
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<b>A. Tony:</b> Thats Apologies</div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Tony, actually that's what I came round to and there is a way, but we can best answer it if you put in a query via the <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact" target="_blank">Contact Us form</a>.</div>
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<b>A. Tony:</b> I then use my search parameter in Trove tools to data mine a set series of articles. So having two seperate searches of the same topic is a little disorganised</div>
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<b>A. Tony:</b> BTW Cass, I submitted my PhD last Thursday...sitting here working on the oral defence for next Thursday.</div>
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<b>A. Virginia:</b> @Tony, do you mean you're using the Trove API?</div>
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<b>A. Tony:</b> Thanks for the reply Virginia. I will contact you via query page. I have used Trove's API but I now use Wragge Trove Tools</div>
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<i style="font-weight: bold;">Q. From IHM: </i><b><i>Mark. Is it better to sort by relevance or by date?</i></b> </div>
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<b>A. Mark: </b>Inside History Magazine - In almost all circumstances it is better to sort by relevance rather than by date. The main reason for this is that Trove, by default, does a 'fuzzy' search, which will introduce non-exact matches into your search results. Also, when looking at newspapers, the article category does influence the considered relevance of an article. The combination of these two means that when sorting by date, the most relevant results may not be visible due to the non-exact matches and advertising matches pushing them out of the way. Where sorting by date is best is when you are specifically looking for the earliest or latest mention of an item. Sorting by date can also be useful if you are using the fulltext: or text: syntax to turn off the fuzzy searching. If you are looking for results in a specific date range, then the best option is to use the date facet or the date search on the advanced search screen rather than trying to sort by date.</div>
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<b>A. Tony: </b>And Mark, Trove searches on every word..subject to OCR quality, while many others like Papers Past only search on headlines. Cudos</div>
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<b>Comment: Martyn: </b>The ability to text search newspapers has opened up such a wonderfully rich resource. Thank you so much to all concerned!</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Michelle: I have used a lot of digitised newspapers online from other countries and Trove is by far the most skillful research tool on offer in Australia. It is changing the way we present history and the best thing is- it is free. What do we have to look forward to over the next few years from Trove?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Virginia:</b> @ Martyn and Michelle, Thank you so much for your comments! As for the future... we'll always be adding content, including more newspapers and hopefully improving things like Lists and things in the newspapers zone and generally tackling all the enhancements people have asked for!</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's the link for new newspaper titles coming soon in case anyone wants it :: <a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/content/new-titles-coming" target="_blank">http://www.nla.gov.au/content/new-titles-coming</a> </div>
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<b>Comment: Carmel: </b>I really like the facility where new articles that have not been checked can be ordered to be notified when it is available, only problem is I was sent two pages last week and I cannot remember who I was researching! need to keep a log</div>
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<b>A. Mark:</b> @Carmel that is always a risk with those notifications, we actually do have a suggestion in on how to improve it...either email the user immediately to say they've requested notification, with the article details (title, newspaper, page, issue date)</div>
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<b>A. Carmel:</b> I know Trove has bought many of my ancestors to life, there are things in papers that I would not have found if not for Trove unless I had at least one more lifetime to sit and read every paper from start to end.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From IHM: Virginia / Mark: What’s the most exciting thing happening in digital history for you?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Mark: </b>Inside History Magazine - In terms of digital history, I think that the most exciting thing that is happening in this field is that it is become much more mainstream, and people are starting to realise that you can do historical research using the online tools, and that these online tools provide significantly more ability to find and analyse the resources that are available than traditional methods do</div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>For me... in terms of digital history is how Trove is inspiring researchers. We'll soon be presenting a Trove seminar featuring speakers for whom Trove has inspired their research, such as Science in the Australian Women's Weekly and others!</div>
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<b><i>Q. From Alexandra:</i></b> <b><i>Just googled Wragge Trove Tools...and I think that's the rest of the night gone for me....why didn't I know about this? I was going to ask about APIs Virginia/Mark...are there any others out there??</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Alexandra, APIs? Sure! <a href="http://api.powerhousemuseum.com/login/?next=/" target="_blank">Powerhouse Museum</a> has one, <a href="http://pro.europeana.eu/api" target="_blank">Europeana</a>, the NAA are building one...</div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>Sorry, that was a short answer, but those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head at 9:30pm.</div>
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<b>A. Alexandra: </b>Thanks for that...sometimes I feel so very ignorant....</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's the link to Wragge's [Tim Sherritt] Trove tools :: <a href="http://discontents.com.au/" target="_blank">http://discontents.com.au</a> and the transcript to our Q&A with him :: <a href="http://ow.ly/fj9Mm" target="_blank">http://ow.ly/fj9Mm</a> | Wragge also wrote a story for us in our Issue 12 about his toolkit and there's follow up coming early in 2013!</div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Alexandra, Don't feel that way, the digital world moves faster than we can keep up sometimes!</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Ignorant, not at all Alexandra - we have these Q&As so we all learn! Also look at the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/srnsw" target="_blank">State Records NSW</a> API :: <a href="http://api.records.nsw.gov.au/" target="_blank">http://api.records.nsw.gov.au/</a></div>
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<b>A. Carmel: </b>We are all ignorant in many areas but if we do not ask the right questions will remain ignorant. As they say there is not such thing as a stupid question as if we do not know the answer we need to ask the questions. I guess in a way the ignorant are the ones who do not want to know the answers.</div>
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<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>A. Tony: </b></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">So true Virginia. When I started my thesis I was using microfische to access regional newspapers to confirm details...now I sit at home, structure a search and presto. The expectation for empirical evidence in PhDs will skyrocket due to the digital explosion</span></b></div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Wendy, it stands for Application Programming Interface and just basically means a way of machine talking to machine.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Alexandra: So really Virginia when someone comes into the public library where I work and wants to donate photos the best thing would be to suggest that they upload them to Trove - as long as they own the copyright of course, yes?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Alexandra: </b>And I'm talkiing about photos with historical significance of course...not just photos of my guinea pig.</div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Alexandra, Absolutely! What we suggest is that they scan them into digital format and then create a Flickr account if they haven't already got one and then upload the images with good titles and descriptions and tags to our Trove: Australia in Pictures group on Flickr.</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's more info on the Trove: Australia in Pictures group :: <a href="http://ow.ly/fjaBO" target="_blank">http://ow.ly/fjaBO</a> | And the group itself :: <a href="http://ow.ly/fjaM9" target="_blank">http://ow.ly/fjaM9</a> | Thanks again Virginia and Mark!<img src="https://s-static.ak.facebook.com/images/blank.gif" /></div>
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Thanks again to Virginia and Mark for joining us tonight! That was an excellent Q&A, as they always are with Trove! We’ll publish the questions, answers and links from tonight’s session in a blog post very soon.</div>
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<b>A. Alexandra: </b>Thanks guys...really enjoyed it! </div>
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<b>A. Mark: </b>Thanks all, it is always a pleasure to answer the questions - if you have any further questions, please use our contact form - <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact" target="_blank">http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact</a></div>
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<b>A. Virginia: </b>Thanks! We do love doing these sessions.</div>
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<b>A. Wendy: </b>Thank you every one , love these sessions</div>
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<b>A. Michelle: </b>I know the session is over but just think back a few years ago those of you who were researching- trolling through newspapers in hardcopy or on film spending hours looking for snippets then compare our research today where we can do such sophisticated searches in our PJs in front of the TV or on our devices coming home in the train. I can remember spending days searching the SMH for references to the 1867 flood at Windsor for mybook and can now do the same, with heaps more results in mere seconds</div>
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<b>A. Katrina: </b>Well, I've been using Trove for a couple of years, and I didn't understand any of the above!</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Trove, crowdsourcing & digital history - it's changing the way we research and write history, and so much for the better Michelle. I'd like to read that book of yours one day.<img src="https://s-static.ak.facebook.com/images/blank.gif" /> Let us know if you have any follow up questions Katrina but we'll have Trove back again soon!</div>
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Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-62299630747467996972012-11-12T07:59:00.003+11:002013-01-24T14:09:45.784+11:00Expert Q&A :: Australian War Memorial - Lost DiggersFor our Expert Q&A Thursday, November 8 we had Janda Gooding and Lauren Hewitt, Curators at the <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me/" target="_blank">Australian War Memorial Remember Me exhibition</a></b>, join us and answer questions on how to research cemeteries in Sydney & NSW. Thanks again to Janda and Lauren for giving us all the benefit of their years of experience. We look forward to having the <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/" target="_blank">Australian War Memorial</a></b> team back sometime very soon.<br />
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Please find the transcript of the Q&A and links below.<br />
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Janda Gooding is Head of Photographs, Film, Sound & Multimedia & Curator for the “<b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me/" target="_blank">Remember me: the lost diggers of Vignacourt</a></b>” at the <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/" target="_blank">Australian War Memorial</a></b>. Lauren Hewitt is the assistant Curator for the exhibition.<br />
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<b>Top tips from Janda Gooding and Lauren Hewitt:</b><br />
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<li>Examine your photograph really carefully and extract all the details and information you can before heading off to do research. You never know when that small mark or insignia that you recorded will save you hours of frustrating research.</li>
<li>The WW1 service records from the National Archives of Australia have a wealth of information in them for family historians. They are sometimes hard to decipher but reward careful looking and the correspondence from soldiers or their families in the file often carries the story into the post war period.</li>
<li>Lots of people recommend using TROVE for a very good reason because it is amazingly helpful in establishing key dates and getting information for stories. </li>
<li>Check out the AWM’s Honours and Awards database on our site.</li>
<li>Don’t leap to a conclusion before having some good corroborated evidence. Nothing worse than having to backtrack. I have had to re-do research so often because I got excited and moved too quickly!</li>
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<li>AWM Remember me exhibition: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me</a></b></span></li>
<li>AWM donations: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/donations" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/donations</a></b></span></li>
<li>AWM FAQs on The Lost Diggers exhibition: <b><a href="http://ow.ly/f7lYt" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://ow.ly/f7lYt</span></a></b></li>
<li>AWM Medals: <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/research/infosheets/medals/" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.awm.gov.au/research/infosheets/medals/</span></a></b></li>
<li><b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/pre_first_world_war/introduction" target="_blank">AWM Pre WW1 Research Guide</a></b></li>
<li>AWM WW2 Histories: <b><a href="https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records</span></a></b></li>
<li>Imperial Camel Corps: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/units/unit_13624.asp" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au/units/unit_13624.asp</a></b></span></li>
<li>National Archives Record Search site: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search" target="_blank">http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search</a></b></span></li>
<li>Trove Newspapers: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper" target="_blank">http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper</a></span></b></li>
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Read more about the Lost Diggers in our <a href="http://www.insidehistory.com.au/" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">Issue 13: Nov-Dec edition</a><b>.</b></div>
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<b>Transcript of Expert Q&A - Lost Diggers & researching your military ancestors using photos and the Australian War Memorial collection:</b><br />
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Our Expert Q&A with the Australian War Memorial [AWM] starts in 15 minutes at 8:30pm AEDT. Topic: The Lost Diggers & researching your military ancestors using photos & the AWM collection. Please ask your questions in a comment below and Janda or Lauren will answer in a comment.<br />
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Welcome everyone, thanks for joining us tonight. Please welcome Janda and Lauren from the Australian War Memorial and ask your questions below.<br />
<b>A. Lauren: </b>Hi all, welcome. Thanks for joining us.<br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Hi everyone, great to be online for Inside History.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Jeff: I have old photos and diaries from WW1. How do I donate them to the Australian War Memorial?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lauren: </b>Hi Jeff: if you are interested in donating items to the Memorial, please see our information page about donations <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/donations" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/donations</a></b> where you can download a donation form, or contact us on donateitems@awm.gov.au<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Christine: I found a story whilst reseraching my thesis, printed, Sunday Times, Perth, 3rd August 1930, about a soldier from 10th Light Horse, a native of Perth, after various incedents, went back to Aus, then back to Egypt, studied languages, married a French Turkish lady and finally was allowed to be a professional guide at Gallipoli, he concealed his right name, and went by a Turkish one, but he sent the details of what happened to him to his family, that month!!!! Any way of finding out who he was? Your book Gallipoli Revisited is brilliant.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Hi Christine, we managed to find the article and then do a couple of quick searches for you. Try the Australian War Memorial series AWM 30 - you'll find it listed on the NAA website. When you search that series that relates to POWs in WW1 you'll get 309 returns for Prisoner of War Statements. It will be a hard slog, but perhaps you will find the 10th LH person you are looking for.<br />
<b>A. Christine: </b>oh, thanks, so much, can I do that online?<br />
<b>A. Lauren: </b>Christine, you can, however you won't be able to see the full report, only the report title. If you go to the National Archives Record Search site: <b><a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search" target="_blank">http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search</a></b><br />
And Christine, if you click on 'Advanced Search' and select 'Series' and search for AWM30 it will give you results for the Prisoner of War statement series. Click on the number of items in this series (309) and it will take you to a listing of all the records in the series.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Amanda: What is the best way to research a family member who fought in the Boer War? My great-grandfather was in the 2nd NSW Mounted Rifles.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Amanda, there is a page on our site to help you start your research <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/pre_first_world_war/introduction" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/pre_first_world_war/introduction</a></b> . There are also some very good reference books that you will find listed on our pages. Just go to www.awm.gov.au and search for 'Boer War'. The State Library of NSW may also help with more detailed information. Good luck!<br />
<b>Q (b): From Amanda: </b>Another question if I may: is it known if the 19th Battalion was stationed at Vignacourt? Two of our relatives served in the 19th and were killed in 1917. I have been through the Vignacourt photos looking for them, but wondered if their battalion was perhaps not stationed near there.<br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Amanda, they were definitely in Vignacourt 7 Oct - 21 Nov 1918 - for the Armistice.<br />
<b>A. Amanda:</b> Thanks so much Janda and Lauren for giving up your time for our questions tonight, and for everything you do at the War Memorial.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Wendy: G'day Lauren, Janda and ISHM :) I recently ID an unknown photo of a WW1 Soldier via 'The Bendigonian ' Newspaper at TROVE , Pte James Gordon DUPUY, 568, 14th Bn he was KIA at Gallipoli on 8th Aug 1915 and has no known grave . How do I go about having his photo included on the Roll Of Honour ?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lauren: </b>Hi Wendy, you can contact our Photographs section on photographs@awm.gov.au in regards to the photo for the Roll of Honour. Do you have the photo of Pte Dupuy or is it on Trove?<br />
<b>A. Wendy: </b>Thanks Lauren , we have the original at our local Historical Society but it had no id, found a photo of him in the paper with his name ... did a big happy dance !!<br />
<b>A. Lauren: </b>Hi Wendy, that's great. The Photographs team will likely ask to either borrow the original photo, or ask you to have it scanned at a high resolution to include on the ROH.<br />
<b>A. Wendy: </b>Thanks, I love it ;) Was it one of you ladies that helped me earlier today by linking Jack Antonios photo to the Roll of Honour ?<br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Wendy - great. I don't think you spoke with us in particular but someone in the Photographs team here at the Memorial.<br />
<b>A. Wendy:</b> Stewart Jack's photo was in the AWM collection but not with him on the Roll of Honour . Done an hour after posting a query on your page!! Great work from the team at the Memorial, you all do an amazing job , thank you :)<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Leonie: Are there any records of hospital ships that carried wounded from Gallipoli to Malta. My great uncle was transported on the Dunluce Castle to Malta where he died. I would like to piece together the story of his last few days.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Leonie, re the hospital ships, we'll have to refer your enquiry to our Research Centre as we don't think its something we can answer in this session. We will come back to you as soon as possible with some suggestions. Thanks for the enquiry.<br />
A. AWM: We typically don’t have detailed medical records or records of individual patients. We have a few records in our collection relating to the Dunluce Castle, but they date from 1918/1919. There may be some general information about hospital ships in the medical volumes of the Official History, which are available to read online here: <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/histories/first_world_war/" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au/histories/first_world_war/.</a></b> If you know which hospital your relative was transferred to, there could be records of that unit, but again, they are unlikely to mention individual cases. There could be some mention of the movements or work of hospital ships in some of the administrative medical units’ war diaries (for example, the relevant Director/Deputy Director/Assistant Director of Medical Services): <b><a href="https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records/awm4/class.asp?levelID=94" target="_blank">https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records/awm4/class.asp?levelID=94</a></b>.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Dan: Hello there, my grandfather served in the 64th Australian Infantry Battalion during WWII, and didn't speak much of the war before he passed away, I was wondering how to find out a bit about what he got up to and some info on his battalion? Thank you for any help you can offer!</i></b><br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Dan, many veterans did not talk much about their experiences. However there is lots of information about the 64th Battalion. Some of the unit diaries are online on our site here <b><a href="https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records/awm52/subclass.asp?levelID=296" target="_blank">https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records/awm52/subclass.asp?levelID=296</a></b> and there are unit histories that you can locate in lots of libraries. The official history of WW2 is digitised and online here <b><a href="https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records/" target="_blank">https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records/</a></b> and will give some clues about the battalion and its role in the war.<br />
<b>A. Dan: </b>Thank you Janda! I look forward to reading whatever I can find :) I understand why some veterans kept mum, my brother deployed with MTF-1 to Afghanistan in 2010, and doesn't speak much about it (not that I press the issue). I hope he can write it down one day, maybe so in 100 years or so our decendants can get some idea about what he went through. Thankyou, once again<br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>We are now working very closely with Iraq and Afghanistan veterans and they have amazing stories that they are sharing through photographs and oral histories in particular. We believe it is so important to work with veterans from recent conflicts and record their stories and experiences now. Stay tuned over the coming year for some news about great projects we have in the pipeline.<br />
<b><i>Q (b): From Dan: Hello again, my great-grandfather was Private Lawrence Alfred Pomeroy, number 7530, he was wounded at Molaveont during the Battle of Amiens on 8-8-18, had part of his leg amputated at 32 Waiting Hospital Bologne, taken to Wimereux 32 Stat Hospital & then evacuated to England for further amputation. Family legend has it that he was 15 when he enlisted and 16 when he lost his leg. I was wondering if there was any way to verify this? Thank you :)</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lauren - AWM Research Centre: </b>Pte Lawrence Alfred Pomeroy, Genealogy SA site has him listed in the birth register. He was born 1899, which would have made him about 18 when he enlisted in 1917. <b><a href="http://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html" target="_blank">Click to go to Genealogy SA Online Database Search</a></b>.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Mary-Rose MacColl I'm looking for information for some stories I'm writing. Anyone who has boy soldiers who served in WWI... the youngest known Australian was 14, I think. I'm also looking for anyone who has any information on Millicent Sylvia Armstrong (I have her brief bio) who served at Royaumont Hospital in WWI.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lauren: </b>Hi Mary-Rose, that question might be more easily answered by our Research Centre staff. Leave it with us and we will see what we can find.<br />
A. AWM: We have a list of boy soldiers identified on the Roll of Honour here: <b><a href="https://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/boysoldiers/" target="_blank">https://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/boysoldiers/</a></b>. Boy soldiers can be difficult to trace because they would have lied about their age. There have also been some memoirs written, though most of them are British. You can see a selection in our books catalogue: http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/books. We probably won’t have much about Millicent Armstrong, as she was living in England and seems to have been serving with British hospitals. The National Archives of Australia has a record of her return to Australia here: <b><a href="http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=6021774" target="_blank">http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=6021774</a></b>. Most records will probably be held at the National Archives of the United Kingdom: <b><a href="http://www.nationarchives.gov.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.nationarchives.gov.uk</a></b>.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Donna: Hi. My grandfathers brother died at Beersheba whilst serving as part of the camel corp. what resources ate available for researching the camel corp.</i></b><br />
A. IHM: Hi Donna Cooke, here's the link to the Imperial Camel Corps info :: <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/units/unit_13624.asp" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au/units/unit_13624.asp</a></b><br />
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<b><i>Q. From Wendy: I am currently researching our local WW1 Diggers as a Commemorative Project for our RSL and was wondering what sort of a deal we could get if we order lots of photos you have of our local lads ? My Page We Will Remember Them is for this project and I also admin WW1 Lost Boys.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Wendy, you would need to discuss this with our esales team esales@awm.gov.au<br />
however, the images we post on our website are available for anyone to use for personal use and for projects such as yours. If you want to purchase better quality then esales can help...Its great work your'e doing!<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Christine: if I may, here is another query, how do you go about finding people with the same name and initials, trying to find out about George Elliott, prisoner of war, looked after by Turkish doc in prison, became best of friends, and when George died, the Turkish family always put flowers on his grave, when his brother arrived in 1939, he still carried a great deal of hate, but when he found out how the Turks had looked after his brother, he felt a great relief had been lifted, ??? same site you said earlier?</i></b><br />
<b>A. AWM:</b> If you’re looking to find lists of people with the same initials and surname who served in the same war, you can do this using the nominal rolls. The Memorial’s First World War nominal roll is alphabetical by surname then initials. This should help narrow down the person in question: <b><a href="https://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/first_world_war/" target="_blank">https://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/first_world_war/</a> </b>. You can use the Memorial’s Roll of Honour to find everyone with the same name who died: <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/?Name=george+elliott&ServiceNumber=&Unit=&Conflict=First+World+War" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/?Name=george+elliott&ServiceNumber=&Unit=&Conflict=First+World+War</a></b>. I can’t find anyone who seems to match the details the client has given, but if they know any more details, they can try searching the National Archives of Australia’s database for the service records: <b><a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/" target="_blank">http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/</a></b>. You can search for “George Elliott” and then use other details like place of birth, middle name, next of kin, etc. to narrow down the correct individual<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Kerry: Hi my name's Kerry and I am researching two brothers ww1 medals three belonging to one brother jack hunter who died in France and was never recovered and his brother Hugh who survived these medals have been in our family for 75 yrs and believe they where pawned to the families pawn shop by Hugh in the depression i have found jack gr gr nephew but he is unaware of the brother Hugh i have found he had three girls in Sydney then trail dies also how can i find if they are in the lost diggers photos. Thx any help be great.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Kerry: </b>Please any help would be appreciative i have been trying to get these medals home for a year now if these records could help in any way I have searched trove/awm databases and found one part of the puzzle but can not find Hugh family his own gr gr nephew didn't know of him. I feel it is my duty these medals make it home unlike Jack still buried out there<br />
<b>A. Lauren: </b>Hi Kerry, for information about medals and replacing lost medals see our information page at: <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/research/infosheets/medals/" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au/research/infosheets/medals/</a></b>. The Lost Digger photos did not come with any names or records against the photos as to who is in them. You will need to search through the photos in the collection and see if you recognise any of the Hunter brothers in them. Do you have known photos of them that you can compare to?<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Hi Kerry McMurray, I'd recommend talking to Gary Traynor at Medals Gone Missing as well :: <b><a href="http://medalsgonemissing.com/" target="_blank">http://medalsgonemissing.com</a></b><br />
<b>A. Kerry: </b>Ty so much i have no photos they don't belong to my family. I actually used them for a conditions report for my studies after hearing jacks story and finding they don't belong to our family i want get them home i have found jacks gr gr nephew but he knows not of Hugh . So i can't return Hughes. Jacks get gr nephew told me a story while jack was reported wounded missing in action that night he sat on his mums bed and told her good bye. I will try the link you gave me i really appreciative.<br />
<b>A. Kerry:</b> Ty for tonight was great.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Jenni: Do you know if any of the diggers were from the 31st Battalion in 1917.Am looking for an Ernest McMillan, his grave was lost and he is on the Menin Gate wall. Note: jack was in the 13th battalion.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Jenni, re 31st Btn, we know that they were stationed very close to Vignacourt 7-18 November 1916 at St Vast. Men often walked to the next town and it is also possible that 31st Btn men passed through on various errands. So have a look at the images on our website <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me/ </a></b>and if you think you can help us identify someone, leave a comment and we'll work on it. Good luck.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Donna: About donations: how would I go about finding out if some missing Korean War medals have been donated to th awm? My uncle was killed after his return to aus and we now cannot find the medals. His surviving siblings are unsure where they are but one of them claims they were 'donated to the museum'. We can't work out which one though.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Donna, we can certainly search for you and see if someone donated them in the past. Do you mind contacting our Military Heraldy and Technology section (who are all home sleeping right now!) tomorrow and ask them to check our database MHT@awm.gov.au<br />
<b>A. Donna: </b>Thank you... I will def do that.<br />
<b>A. Donna:</b> Thank you for your time!<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Chez: Hello a quick question...and I do have some documentation. My Great Grandfather was a Trainer at Bathurst during WW1 a bayonet trainer...he was sick of sending boys off to war and asked to go to war....he was given the position of Lance Corporal my grandmother and father who both knew him have always maintained that it was the first time that rank was given in Australia. It was done so due to his sacrifice of giving up a safe post. Is there anyway to verify this?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lauren: </b>Hi Chez, what was your great Grandfather's name and unit?<br />
<b>A. Chez:</b> Robert Joseph Jansen. I think first field co. engineers.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Alison: Just wondering if the AWM has an arrangement with archivists at the various state Libraries and Museums whereby those archivists automatically advise AWM when they (1) receive photos of soldiers or (2) when they receive research to identify previously unidentified portraits of servicemen?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Hi Alison, nice to hear from you. We don't have any specific arrangements with other institutions but are often contacted by them to assist in cataloguing or verifying details.<br />
<b>A. Alison:</b> Thanks Janda, The reason for my query was that I completed research to identify the previously unidentified soldier in this photo (<a href="http://images.slsa.sa.gov.au/srg/123/348/SRG123_348_209.htm"><b>http://images.slsa.sa.gov.au/srg/123/348/SRG123_348_209.htm</b></a>) and advised Beverley Jennings of the Archival Processing Team at State Library of South Australia who kindly changed the description to read "Soldier in uniform, identified by a researcher as Robert McGowan, Service number 3977. " However not being the person in possession of the original photograph or any relation was unsure of best way to have that photo linked with the AWM records for this soldier via Honour Roll.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Marjorie: Why do some WWI soldiers have the same service number?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lauren: </b>Hi Marjorie, good question! It can be frustrating. At the beginning of the war there was no centralised system, and enlistments were taken on a state by state basis. Numbers were also reused as soldiers returned home or were killed in action.<br />
<b>A. Marjorie:</b> Thank you Inside History Magazine, Lauren and Janda for this opportunity. Got a rather perplexing question of mine answered for which I am grateful.<br />
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Time flies! If we've missed your questions, Janda and Lauren have kindly agreed to followup over the coming days :) To finish, Janda and Lauren, what are your top tips for researching military ancestors in the AWM collection.<br />
<b>A. Janda: </b>Top Tips from Janda and Lauren:<br />
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<li>Examine your photograph really carefully and extract all the details and information you can before heading off to do research. You never know when that small mark or insignia that you recorded will save you hours of frustrating research.</li>
<li>The WW1 service records from the National Archives of Australia have a wealth of information in them for family historians. They are sometimes hard to decipher but reward careful looking and the correspondence from soldiers or their families in the file often carries the story into the post war period.</li>
<li>Lots of people recommend using TROVE for a very good reason because it is amazingly helpful in establishing key dates and getting information for stories. </li>
<li>Check out the AWM’s Honours and Awards database on our site.</li>
<li>Don’t leap to a conclusion before having some good corroborated evidence. Nothing worse than having to backtrack. I have had to re-do research so often because I got excited and moved too quickly! Hope these help!</li>
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<b>Comment: IHM:</b> Thanks again to Janda and Lauren for joining us tonight! We’ll publish the questions, answers and links from tonight’s session in a blog post this coming week. Make sure you get to Canberra for the “<b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me/" target="_blank">Remember me: the lost diggers of Vignacourt</a></b>” exhibition at the Australian War Memorial :: <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/" target="_blank">http://www.awm.gov.au</a></b><br />
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When: NSW-ACT-VIC-TAS: 8:30-9:30pm AEDT | QLD: 7:30-8:30pm | WA: 5:30-6:30pm | NT: 7:00-8:00pm | SA: 8:00-9:00pm.<br />
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<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">One of the many <a href="http://www.facebook.com/lostdiggers" target="_blank">Lost Digger</a> images discovered in a barn in France last year by Ross Coulthart and the Seven Network's <a href="http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/" target="_blank">Sunday Night</a> team. Courtesy the Kerry Stokes Collection, The Louis and Antoinette Thuillier Collection. Now on display at <a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me/" target="_blank">Australian War Memorial exhibition, Remember Me</a>.</span></b>Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-40441966478233035772012-11-07T09:55:00.001+11:002012-11-07T09:55:18.210+11:00Found: Rare maps from the Macquarie eraIn <b><a href="http://www.insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/issue-13-nov-dec-2012-is-now-available.html" target="_blank">issue 13</a></b>, Robin McLachlan from <b><a href="http://www.csu.edu.au/" target="_blank">Charles Sturt University</a></b> shares his exciting finding exclusively with Inside History.<br />
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Robin’s recent discovery of two Macquarie-era maps shed new light on the inland city of Bathurst in New South Wales. Robin made the discovery while researching at the State Records NSW in Kingswood, Sydney. One of his current research projects is Bathurst’s bicentenary in 2015, and in particular, the site of the first flag staff, erected by Governor Lachlan Macquarie in 1815. It was this search that led Robin to two maps of a lost city in inland New South Wales! The maps or plans, to be more correct, reveal the location of the town of Bathurst, explains Robin. “Now, you’ll say that Bathurst is not a ‘lost city,’” Robin says. “That’s true, but the two plans - SR1293 and SR1294 – that I’ve found at State Records are for an earlier Bathurst, the one mapped out in 1815 on the orders of Macquarie. The present-day town of Bathurst was not surveyed until almost 20 years later. These plans are for another Bathurst, a lost city that never was.”<br />
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Although undated and unsigned, both plans carry later notations provided by the Surveyor General’s staff. SR1293 was thought to be the work of “Sur(veyor) G.W. Evans probably 1815”. SR1293 is pictured below.<br />
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On SR1294 a later hand has written “By James Meehan Probably 1821 FB189”, with the postscript “Or 1815 FB107”. FB107 refers to Field Book 107, used by Meehan in May 1815 at Bathurst. An expert comparison of the plans with field books may offer more evidence. A date of 1815, however, seems plausible given the marking on SR1294 of the “intended” location of “Govt House”. By 1817, Government House was built. SR1294 is pictured below, with Robin’s typed annotations.<br />
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The painting below shows Maquarie’s camp at Bathurst in 1815. The watercolour is attributed to professional artist John Lewin. The scene is described in Henry Colden Antill's, "Journal of an excursion over the Blue or Western Mountains of New South Wales to visit a tract of new discovered Country, 1815". The entry for 5 May(pp.36-37), describes the scene: "The spot which was chosen for the Governor's large tent was upon a little rising ground about three hundred yards from the men's huts; a small tent was placed on each side with a clear space in front upon which a small flag staff was erected. This was a delightful spot for a town, commanding a view of the surrounding country to a considerable extent...".<br />
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Read more about Robin McLachlan’s discovery and his plans to find the original Bathurst in <b><a href="http://www.insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/issue-13-nov-dec-2012-is-now-available.html" target="_blank">issue 13 of Inside History</a></b>.<br />
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<li>In our Q&A, Sunday Night journalist and author of <b><a href="http://www.harpercollins.com.au/books/Lost-Diggers-Ross-Coulthart/?isbn=9780732294618" target="_blank">The Lost Diggers, Ross Coulthart</a></b>, reveals how he unearthed thousands of glass plate images of Aussie WWI soldiers in France, and the sources that helped him trace the Anzacs’ identities. </li>
<li>Experts from the <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me/" target="_blank">Australian War Memorial</a></b> and the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tepapa/sets/72157630061669907/" target="_blank"><b>Museum of New Zealand</b> </a>talk us through the process of identifying WWI soldiers through photos</li>
<li>In another exclusive, we share the discovery of two Macquarie-era maps charting a lost city in NSW </li>
<li>Make exciting discoveries of your own with our guide to <b><a href="http://www.findmypast.com.au/" target="_blank">findmypast</a></b> and its new World Collection.</li>
<li>We also introduce a new website displaying more than 20,000 unidentified photos of post-WWII migrants – could your ancestor be among them? </li>
<li>We sift through <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/" target="_blank">Trove</a></b> to learn how your ancestors’ celebrated the festive season. </li>
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From Lost Diggers to the latest historical discoveries, Issue 13 of Inside History commemorates Remembrance Day with a military theme, showcasing our soldiers’ bravery in the world wars — and how we can learn from, and contribute to, the ongoing research being done in their memory.<br />
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Get the inside scoop on the Lost Diggers collection: in our exclusive Q&A, investigative journalist and author of <b><a href="http://www.harpercollins.com.au/books/Lost-Diggers-Ross-Coulthart/?isbn=9780732294618" target="_blank">The Lost Diggers, Ross Coulthart</a></b>, reveals how he unearthed thousands of glass plate images of Aussie WWI soldiers in Vignacourt, France, plus the most valuable research sources that helped him trace the Anzacs’ identities.<br />
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Experts from the <a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/" target="_blank"><b>Australian War Memorial</b></a> and the <b><a href="http://www.tepapa.govt.nz/" target="_blank">Museum of New Zealand</a></b> talk us through the process of identifying unknown WWI soldiers, and spotlight their respective methods and successes in uncovering the names and stories behind photographed Anzacs.<br />
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We delve into a little-known war tragedy that struck in 1940, which came to solve a bittersweet mystery for a widow who’d wondered for more than 70 years how the husband she’d just recently married had died in World War II. In another fascinating breakthrough, Inside History contributor Dr Robin McLachlan shares his discovery of two Macquarie-era maps charting a lost city in inland NSW, which is believed to lie beneath present-day Bathurst.<br />
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Make exciting discoveries of your own with our guide to <b><a href="http://www.findmypast.com.au/" target="_blank">findmypast</a></b> and its new World Collection, boasting over 1.5 billion records. We also introduce a new <b><a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/" target="_blank">National Archives of Australia</a> </b>website displaying over 20,000 unidentified photographs of migrants who arrived in Australian ports after World War II — you’ll soon be scanning the faces on <b><a href="https://www.destinationaustralia.gov.au/site/" target="_blank">Destination Australia</a></b>!<br />
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And, just in time for the holiday season, we sift through <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/" target="_blank">Trove</a></b> to glean snapshots of festive seasons past — discover the customs, quirks and Christmas tucker that may have featured in your ancestors’ celebrations.</div>
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Ancestry Content Director :: Brad Argent @<b><a href="http://twitter.com/ancestrycomau" target="_blank">AncestryComAu</a></b><br />
Mosman Librarian :: Bernard de Broglio @<b><a href="http://twitter.com/Mosmanlibrary" target="_blank">mosmanlibrary</a></b><br />
Mosman Librarian :: Mary Lou Byrne @<b><a href="http://twitter.com/Mosmanlibrary" target="_blank">mosmanlibrary</a></b><br />
Military historian :: Steven Carruthers<br />
Investigative Journalist :: Ross Coulthart<br />
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Museum Curator :: Janda Gooding @<b><a href="http://twitter.com/AWMemorial" target="_blank">AWMemorial</a></b><br />
Australian genealogist :: Barbara Hall @<b><a href="http://twitter.com/irishwattle" target="_blank">IrishWattle</a></b><br />
Australian genealogist :: Rosemary Kopittke @<b><a href="http://twitter.com/RAKopittke" target="_blank">RAKopittke</a></b><br />
Military Historian :: Michael Martin @<b><a href="http://twitter.com/RegimentalBooks" target="_blank">RegimentalBooks</a></b><br />
Charles Sturt University historian:: Robin McLachlan<br />
Australian genealogist :: Annie Payne @<b><a href="http://twitter.com/annie_histheart" target="_blank">annie_histheart</a></b><br />
Museum Curator :: Kirstie Ross @<b><a href="http://twitter.com/Te_Papa/" target="_blank">Te_Papa</a></b><br />
Author :: Barry Stone<br />
Intern Journalist :: Sarah Trevor<br />
New Zealand genealogist :: Mark Webster @<b><a href="http://twitter.com/macnzMark" target="_blank">macnzMark</a></b><br />
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<li>Tip 1. Best list of cemeteries in Greater Sydney can be found in Johnson & Sainty (2001) “Sydney Burial Ground 1819-1901” Appendices 4 & 5. Use to confirm when cemeteries first opened in Sydney or - if you have no burial ground listed on the death certificate - where your ancestor might be buried.</li>
<li>Tip 2. Consult every transcription of a cemetery as earlier ones (eg. from the 1960s) may have details of headstones that have since weathered away or been damaged. A useful index of cemetery transcripts is Killion & Garnsey (1994) “Cemeteries in Australia: A Register of Transcripts”. Also check Australian Cemeteries Index: <b><a href="http://austcemindex.com/" target="_blank">http://austcemindex.com</a></b></li>
<li>Tip 3. <b><a href="http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/" target="_blank">State Records NSW</a></b> holds a lot of information about the administration of cemeteries – requests for land grants for cemeteries, surveyors instructions and correspondence about laying out cemeteries, special bundles on particular cemeteries. Check out their <b><a href="http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-69" target="_blank">Archives In Brief 69 – Cemetery Records</a></b></li>
<li>Tip 4. Use the digitised newspapers in TROVE <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/" target="_blank">http://trove.nla.gov.au/</a></b> to identify funeral notices, death notices, obituaries, and in memoriam notices. (What did we ever do without Trove?!!) The Ryerson Index <b><a href="http://www.ryersonindex.org/" target="_blank">http://www.ryersonindex.org</a></b> is also good for more contemporary notices.</li>
<li>Tip 5. Don't forget that the business records of funeral directors and monumental masons can also provide additional information about your ancestors' burial. Both the Mitchell Library and the Society of Australian Genealogists have such records. Have a look at the <b><a href="http://www.sag.org.au/helping-you/research-guides/32.html?task=view" target="_blank">SAG's research guide on cemeteries</a></b>.</li>
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<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">George St looking north, showing the old Burial Ground, now the site of the Town Hall ca 1844</span></b><br />
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<b>Summary of links from the Q&A:</b></div>
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<li>Australian Cemeteries Index: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://austcemindex.com/" target="_blank">http://austcemindex.com</a></b></span></li>
<li>Book: Johnson & Sainty "<b><i><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/34455166?versionId=45804926" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Sydney Burial Ground 1819-1901</span></a></i></b>"</li>
<li>Book: Killion & Garnsey “<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/30104836?q=Cemeteries+in+Australia%3A+A+Register+of+Transcripts&c=book&sort=holdings+desc&_=1352031128492&versionId=36556278" target="_blank">Cemeteries in Australia: A Register of Transcripts</a></b></span>”</li>
<li>City of Sydney Archives: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/AboutSydney/HistoryAndArchives/" target="_blank">http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/AboutSydney/HistoryAndArchives/</a></b></span><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"></span></b></li>
<li>City of Sydney – Old Burial Ground in the archives: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/AboutSydney/HistoryAndArchives/OldSydneyBurialGround.asp" target="_blank">http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/AboutSydney/HistoryAndArchives/OldSydneyBurialGround.asp</a></b></span></li>
<li>Dictionary of Sydney: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.dictionaryofsydney.org/" target="_blank">http://www.dictionaryofsydney.org</a></b></span></li>
<li>Friends of Rookwood: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://www.friendsofrookwoodinc.org.au/" target="_blank"><b>http://www.friendsofrookwoodinc.org.au/</b></a></span></li>
<li>Friends of Mays Hill: <b><a href="http://www.mayshillcemetery.org/" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.mayshillcemetery.org</span></a></b></li>
<li>Newtown project: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.sydneyarchives.info/" target="_blank">http://www.sydneyarchives.info</a></b></span></li>
<li>Randwick Council cemetery records: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.randwick.nsw.gov.au/A_sense_of_community/Library/Local_studies/Family_history/Cemetery_records/index.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.randwick.nsw.gov.au/A_sense_of_community/Library/Local_studies/Family_history/Cemetery_records/index.aspx</a></b></span></li>
<li>Randwick Historical Society: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.randwickhistoricalsociety.org.au/" target="_blank">http://www.randwickhistoricalsociety.org.au</a></b></span></li>
<li>Scratching Sydney's Surface: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://scratchingsydneyssurface.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://scratchingsydneyssurface.wordpress.com</a></span></b></li>
<li>Society of Australian Genealogists Camperdown cemetery records :: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.sag.org.au/downloads/CamperdownCemetery.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.sag.org.au/downloads/CamperdownCemetery.pdf</a></b></span></li>
<li>Society of Australian Genealogists - Basics on Cemeteries: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.sag.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32" target="_blank">http://www.sag.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32</a></b></span></li>
<li>State Records NSW - Archives In Brief 69 – Cemetery Records: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-69" target="_blank">http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-69</a></b></span></li>
<li>Trove Newspapers: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper" target="_blank">http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper</a></span></b></li>
<li>Waverley Cemetery: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www1.waverley.nsw.gov.au/cemetery/" target="_blank">http://www1.waverley.nsw.gov.au/cemetery/</a></b></span></li>
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<b>Transcript of Expert Q&A - How to research cemeteries in NSW:</b><br />
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Welcome everyone, thanks for joining us tonight. Try to keep your questions concise and focused on tonight’s topic: how to research cemeteries in NSW. That will help Lisa to answer as many as possible in the next hour.<br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>Hi everybody! Good to be here.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Rochell: Has everyone been found that was buried at the old town hall cemetery and is it true some coffins were found with scratches on the inside.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>Evidence of where the graves were still pop up regularly, as it seems they weren't very thorough in clearing the site in the 1860s. So there may still be some skeletal remains. I'm not aware of any particular finds of intact coffins with scratch marks, but it is Halloween!<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Lisa also wrote about cemetery design in our <b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/inside-history-is-for-people-passionate.html" target="_blank">Issue 10: May-Jun edition</a></b> - it was our cemetery special.<br />
<b>A. Chez: </b>Hi Rochell - re town hall graves... apparently my grandfather who lived in Sydney used to say that when they excavated and moved coffins some had scratch marks. Not that I think he was alive when they were moved (sorry don't know the date) but it would not be like him to just say something for hype - he used to tell his children who are now 75 and younger...<br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A to Chez: Evocative story. I've found a couple of great newspaper reports of graves being uncovered in the 1920s outside town hall, but the coffin disintegrated when it was exposed. There's sure to be more reports on Trove - I haven't had the time recently to indulge my death fascination with Trove.<br />
<b>A. Chez: </b>Well if it was the 1920s my grandfather may well have seen....he would have been an apprentice working around town hall then.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Christine: There is a cemetery in Clunes, NSW, with a section for Roman Catholics, however, I cannot find any information on how the Catholics were there, Clunes, was an Ornge town, and only acknowledged one Catholic, the baker, intrigue, one local did say that the Catholics would have had to sneak in at night, because no way the protestants would have let them in!!!</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A. to Christine: The government developed a standardised design for general cemeteries which they applied fairly rigorously across the state of NSW from 1859. The denominational divisions were based on the 1856 census. The Roman Catholics were given one of the larger portions, after the Church of England. So the surveyors didn't really respond to local religious circumstances. They only worried about the topography of the land.<br />
<b>A. Christine: </b>okay, thanks, however, still does not clear up the mystery, and was also told that, at Clunes, and else where, that the boundaries of the cemeteries were not actually what you see, and that many 'unwelcome guests' were buried outside the cemetery lines, what do you think???<br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A. to Christine: Many country general cemeteries are actually bigger than what is now fenced. Some towns just didn't develop as rapidly as the surveyors anticipated. There was also a standard design developed in the late 19th century that allowed for a large area to be surveyed but a smaller portion fenced and utilised. This has resulted in some fantastic ecological communities of endangered vegetation surviving. eg the grassy whitebox community. I have seen a couple of instances of crown land plans showing Aboriginal burials outside the cemetery boundary. However, unless documented in some way at the time, to identify them today you would need to use ground-penetrating radar and other tech stuff.<br />
<b>A. Christine: </b>perhaps I should send you the results of my research, it is a fascinating but very confusing cemetery, the Catholics who are buried there are not even recognised as Catholics, and are listed as Cof E.<br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>Further A to Christine: I suggest (if you haven't already) that you have a look at the parish maps. Parish maps often include a diagram of the general cemetery showing denominational divisions and gazettal dates. A sequence of editions of Parish Maps can show extensions to cemeteries and give leads for crown land plans of individual cemeteries. You can search online at <b><a href="https://six.nsw.gov.au/" target="_blank">https://six.nsw.gov.au</a> </b>Church cemetery grants are sometimes noted too.<br />
<b>A. Christine: </b>yes, thanks, have all that, perhaps if there was time somewhere else to explain the history of Clunes and all the things that went on, may give you an idea of where I am coming from.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Janelle: when my ancestor was reinterred from the Devonshire Cem to one in Botany, would she have been buried alone or would a bunch have been buried together from Dev Cem? There were no people listed in that contact section on the list of whose body was moved where. There is apparently no headstone for my lady at Botany, but would they know where she is buried? She was Jewish. Thanks!!!</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A. to Janelle: They did try to keep the graves together, so any remains found in one grave would have been transferred and buried together in one grave at Botany. However, since then the area dedicated in Botany to the Devonshire Street Cemetery has been consolidated into a rest park. For the full low down on the history of the Devonshire Street Cemetery and the transfer of remains have a look at Johnson & Sainty (2001) "<b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/34455166?versionId=45804926" target="_blank">Sydney Burial Ground 1819-1901</a></b>".<br />
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<b><i>Q. Denise: Why don't all councils eg Randwick make burial details available on line please?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A to Denise: Most councils only became responsible for general cemeteries in the 1960s, so some councils in fact don't have the early burial registers for the cemeteries they are now responsible for. There may also be issues of cost and privacy in making such records digitally accessible.<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's a link at <b><a href="http://www.randwick.nsw.gov.au/A_sense_of_community/Library/Local_studies/Family_history/Cemetery_records/index.aspx" target="_blank">Randwick City Council on cemetery records</a></b> Denise Dobinson and there's Australian Cemeteries Index: <b><a href="http://austcemindex.com/">http://austcemindex.com</a> </b>but I can't find Randwick on that site.<br />
<b>A. Denise: </b>Thanks for the link I have already looked at it so looks like a trip to the cemetery for me. I thought that since Botany is online they may be putting the rest up. Thanks for your help.<br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A to Denise: You could check with Randwick Historical Society to see if they know if Randwick Council holds the burial registers, or if held somewhere else. I always check the cemetery transcripts before I go out to the cemetery. A useful index of cemetery transcripts is Killion & Garnsey (1994) “<b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/30104836?q=Cemeteries+in+Australia%3A+A+Register+of+Transcripts&c=book&sort=holdings+desc&_=1352031128492&versionId=36556278" target="_blank">Cemeteries in Australia: A Register of Transcripts</a></b>”.<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's the link to the <b><a href="http://www.randwickhistoricalsociety.org.au/" target="_blank">Randwick Historical Society</a>.</b><br />
<b>A. Denise: </b>Inside History Magazine - austcemindex don't have Randwick or Waverly listed. I have been lucky that most of my research has been at Rookwood or Botany. Thanks for the info.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Maddy: Hi Lisa. Is it true that Dicken's inspiration for Miss Havisham is buried in Newtown cemetery do you know? Not sure where I heard that...</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A to Maddy: Yes, that's right.<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>There's a great piece on Eliza Emily Donnithorne of Newtown & Miss Havisham on <a href="http://scratchingsydneyssurface.wordpress.com/" target="_blank"><b>Scratching Sydney's Surface</b></a> Maddy Hunt :: <b><a href="http://scratchingsydneyssurface.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/20-july-2012-miss-donnithorne/" target="_blank">20 July 2012: Miss Donnithorne</a></b><br />
<b><i>Q (b). Maddy: Great. thanks for that. Any further recommendations of fun cemeteries? Any great stories you've come across through your research?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A to Maddy: There are some great resources about Camperdown Cemetery. The Society of Australian Genealogists has an excellent 8 page guide to Camperdown Cemetery, which lists original records as well as some published histories. There are also some original records held in the City of Sydney Archives, relating to when the cemetery was closed and converted into a rest park. There is also info on the associated <b><a href="http://www.sydneyarchives.info/" target="_blank">Newtown Project </a></b>website.<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Link to Society of Australian Genealogists Camperdown cemetery records :: <b><a href="http://www.sag.org.au/downloads/CamperdownCemetery.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.sag.org.au/downloads/CamperdownCemetery.pdf</a></b><br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A to Maddy: Well, now that you ask, I love a good picnic in a cemetery. So Katoomba with the view sounds perfect. If you haven't been to Rookwood Necropolis then you MUST! A great introduction is the tours done by the <b><a href="http://www.friendsofrookwoodinc.org.au/" target="_blank">Friends of Rookwood</a></b>. I love Waverley Cemetery too which is on the cliff between Bronte and Coogee. My favourite headstone there is of a circus high-diver who died when he missed the tank of water. His gravestone is specially carved showing him just about to leap off!!! I'm also partial to a graveyard and one of my favourites is around the Goulburn area - it's a little CoE at Pejar. Best to visit early spring when the daffodils are in flower. It has a vista across the dam. Very pretty!!<br />
<b>A. Denise: <a href="http://www.mayshillcemetery.org/" target="_blank">Mays Hill</a></b> near Parramatta is a nice cemetery too.<br />
<b><i>Q (c). Lisa, is Waverley cemetery easy to navigate and find graves do you know?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>Good call Denise. Haven't been there for AGES! Must go on a sunny day.<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's the sources for <b><a href="http://www.waverley.nsw.gov.au/library/local_studies/waverley_cemetery_whos_who" target="_blank">Waverley records - Waverley Council</a></b> and <b><a href="http://www.sag.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32" target="_blank">Society of Australian Genealogists</a></b> and <b><a href="http://blog.findmypast.com.au/2012/06/waverley-south-head-cemetery-transcriptions/" target="_blank">findmypast.com.au Aust & NZ</a></b> have the transcripts for Waverley cemetery.<br />
<b>A. Chez: </b>I have relos at Waverley...and no idea of how easy it is to get to? Is there a who is buried where resource? or do you need to know plot numbers. I know it is supposed to have a great water view!<br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A to Denise and Chez: Waverley Cemetery is pretty easy to get to. It's right beside a Sydney Buses route. The cemetery is kept in pretty good condition and pathways are regularly mown. There is often someone in the Cemetery Office who can (for a fee) search their registers. I have some old self-guided tours of Waverley Cemetery. I'll dig them out and I'll ask the lovely people at Inside History and see if they can post them up for me. :)<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Waverley Cemetery is also part of the <b><a href="http://bonditocoogeewalk.com.au/" target="_blank">Coogee to Bondi Coastal Walk</a></b> - one of our favourite walks!<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Please find the link for the 6 Waverley cemetery walks available on the <b><a href="http://www.waverley.nsw.gov.au/library/local_studies/self_guided_history_walks/waverley_cemetery" target="_blank">Waverley Council Library site</a></b>.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Maddy: Thanks guys! I have found in my travels that gold rush towns usually have cemeteries with a great ambience. Sofala comes to mind. Also way out west where the ground is hard and the graves are humble.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>Comment to Maddy: your poetic description of Sofala Cem makes me want to head out there right now. Cemeteries can say so much about a place and the history of the town and the people.<br />
<b>A. Maddy: </b>ah no! I was just thinking it might have been Hill End!! can't be sure :)<br />
<b>A. Denise: </b>Both Sofala and Hill End have some good stories on headstones.<br />
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<b>Comment: Chez: </b>Katoomba is a cemetery that can be confusing...as until I had to investigate more fully thought my great great grandmother was buried with the Anglicans (I am one) which would have made her turn in her grave - she was a devout Catholic. On researching more I learned that the move the signs to the 'current' area of burial....so she was in fact buried in the Catholic portion! and if you have never been to Katoomba cemetry...worth the visit...view is great...and the old coach cover structure is still there!<br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>A to Chez: Great recommendation for Katoomba Cemetery. I love it when the old landscape design elements of the cemetery still survive.<br />
<b>A. Chez: </b>Wood Coffill in Katoomba 20yrs ago...still had the original cards used at the time of funerals for the 1920s...even told you the weather on the day...how many horses/carriages etc!<br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>WOW!! That's amazing. I would love to get my hands on those and do an analysis of all the funerals over a year. How cool would that be?!!? I wonder if they still have them. We should encourage them to donate them to the Mitchell Library or a similar institution. They are a rare and wonderful collection that really could shed some light on funeral practices and burial rituals.<br />
<b>A. Chez: </b>True Lisa: They were so nice when I phoned them all that time ago, photocopied and posted the front and back of the card....It would be a great research piece and there are many branches research could take you so they could be invaluable!!<br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>Comment to Chez: That sounds really encouraging about Wood & Coffill. It seems they realise their value and it's lovely they took the time to photocopy the card for you. I'd love to see a copy of it - I haven't come across something like that, although admittedly I've focussed more on cemeteries and monumental masons, not so much funeral parlours. (Although still have several research files on them - can't resist:) )<br />
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<b><i>Q. IHM: Time flies! One last one from us Lisa: What do you have in the pipeline that we should be excited about?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>Okay time to sign off. Thanks everyone. It's been a joy! My next big thing coming up is with the City of Sydney - we're <b><a href="http://whatson.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/events/16211-newtown-proclamation-day" target="_blank">launching our new self-guided historical walking tour brochure of Newtown</a></b> on 12 December at Newtown Library. It’s the 150th anniversary since the proclamation of Newtown Municipality. Come along for the celebrations. And you can find out about all my public talks on my facebook page: <b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/SydneyClio" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/SydneyClio</a></b> Bye for now!!<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Thanks again for joining us Lisa Murray and sharing your knowledge, we'll have to get you back another time! We’ll publish the questions, answers and links from tonight’s session in a blog post this coming week.<br />
<b>A. Lisa: </b>Sure - anytime. It's been fun!<br />
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Janda Gooding is Head of Photographs, Film, Sound & Multimedia and Curator for the “<b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me/" target="_blank">Remember me: the lost diggers of Vignacourt</a></b>” exhibition, which starts at the AWM this Friday, November 2<br />
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In support of <b><a href="http://www.movember.com/" target="_blank">Movember</a></b>, <b><a href="http://www.insidehistory.com.au/" target="_blank">Inside History</a></b> is asking people to share photos of their moustached ancestors to help raise funds for men’s heath. For each “hairy mancestor” posted, <b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/HairyMancestors" target="_blank">Inside History will donate 50c to the Movember cause</a></b>. “We see a lot of great photos running a history magazine — a lot of men of yore sporting hairy top lips,” says Inside History’s co-publisher, Ben Mercer. “Now what better month to reveal the best than November, the month of Movember!”<br />
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Simply “Like” Inside History’s Movember Facebook page at <b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/HairyMancestors" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/HairyMancestors</a></b> and post photos of your moustached ancestors. Include their name, story and the approximate date of the photo. For each “hairy mancestor” posted, Inside History will donate 50c to Movember. To increase our donation on your behalf to $1, post a current pic of yourself (or your partner, brother, father, son) sporting a similarly fabulous moustache alongside your moustached mancestor’s photo, so we can see the resemblance. Remember, beards are not allowed — mow and leave the mo!<br />
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For even more mo-tivation, every participant who uploads a photo of their moustached ancestor will go into the draw to win one of two World Heritage Memberships from our friends at <b><a href="http://Ancestry.com.au/" target="_blank">Ancestry.com.au</a></b>. Remember to visit the page regularly to check out our ever-growing online gallery of hairy mancestors, from the petite handlebar to the bushy walrus. <b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/HairyMancestors" target="_blank">Get mo-ing!</a></b><br />
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<b>What is Movember?</b><br />
During November each year, Movember is responsible for the sprouting of moustaches on thousands of men’s faces in Australia and beyond. The aim is to raise vital funds and awareness for men’s health, specifically prostate cancer and depression in men. Find out more at <b><a href="http://www.movember.com.au/" target="_blank">www.movember.com.au</a></b>.<br />
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<b>What is Inside History?</b><br />
It’s a magazine for people passionate about researching their family history. Produced bi-monthly by an independent publisher in Sydney, its 76 pages are packed with terrific features, practical information on family tree research, chances to network with other genealogists, competitions and product reviews. Our November-December 2012 issue is on sale November 7. Read more at <b><a href="http://www.insidehistory.com.au/" target="_blank">www.insidehistory.com.au</a></b>.<br />
<br />Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-34623154604362267412012-10-27T21:51:00.000+11:002012-10-29T17:39:35.175+11:00Author Q&A :: Eureka Stockade by Gregory Blake<div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;">
From time to time, we'll be talking to great Australian authors about their local history and what inspired them to start researching and writing their stories.</div>
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This week we talk to Gregory Blake, author of <b><a href="http://www.bigskypublishing.com.au/Books/General-Interest/Eureka-Stockade/981/productview.aspx" target="_blank">Eureka Stockade - A ferocious and bloody battle</a></b>. Gregory Blake was born in Melbourne in 1955. Since a very early age, he has had a keen interest in military history and has written numerous articles on the subject, for publications in Australian, the UK and the US. Greg is a secondary school teacher and tutor at the Australian Defence Force Academy. Greg served with the Australian Army Reserve during the 1970s and 1980s. He is an accomplished artist and in addition to illustrations in this book, has contributed his talents to magazines and instructional texts both in Australia and overseas.</div>
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<b><i>IHM. Q. What inspired you to start researching and writing?</i></b><br />
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<li><b>Greg: </b>There are so many stories in Australia’s history that have remained undiscovered or remembered only as a collection of myths, legends and fallacies. One of these is the story of the Eureka stockade. I have always admired how similar stories to the Eureka Stockade have been portrayed in other national histories and around 2004 I stumbled across a little book that had within it a collection of firsthand accounts of what occurred at Eureka. I am a keen student of military history, especially that of the mid C19th. With this knowledge I began reading these accounts of Eureka and the penny dropped and I realised that there was a great deal about this conflict that we simply did not know. This excited me and so I began digging. Four years and a mountain of research later I had uncovered an amazing story which, unlike many of the commonly accepted stories, was based on hard evidence and logical informed deduction. This story bore little resemblance to the collection of myths and misunderstandings that have characterised the Eureka story for generations and it was a story that needed to be told.</li>
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<li><b><i>Favourite website? </i>Greg: </b>The <b><a href="http://prov.vic.gov.au/" target="_blank">Public Records Office Victoria</a></b> and <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/" target="_blank">TROVE</a></b>. </li>
<li><b><i>Favourite library? </i>Greg: </b>Without doubt the State Library of Victoria although others such as the St Ives Library at Sovereign Hill, the <b><a href="http://ballaratmi.com.au/wp/" target="_blank">Mechanics Institute in Ballarat</a></b>, the <b><a href="http://www.supremecourt.vic.gov.au/home/library/" target="_blank">Supreme Court of Victoria library</a></b> to mention only a few are excellent resources. </li>
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<li><b>Greg: </b>The transcripts of the State Treason Trials for the accused Eureka diggers held by the Supreme Court of Victoria are a treasure trove of material for primary source material related to the military aspects of Eureka. I believe I am the first to have made use of this resource for the military information contained within it. </li>
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<i style="font-weight: bold;">IHM. Q. Was there any information you uncovered that stopped you in your tracks?</i> <b><i>Which stories affected you the most from your research? </i></b><br />
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<li><b>Greg: </b>No one thing but more of an overall realisation that so many ordinary men were willing to take up arms, risk their lives and all they had to defend an ideal of personal independence and liberty they held precious. It made me wonder how many would do the same these days if faced with the same circumstances as the Eureka diggers. </li>
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<li><b>Greg: </b>The sheer pomposity and arrogance of the colonial ruling classes and their utter unwillingness to accept that their world had changed. </li>
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<b><i>IHM. Q. If you could track down one thing you haven’t yet managed to find out, what would it be? </i></b><br />
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<li><b>Greg: </b>The pre Eureka story of James McGill the leader of the Independent Californian Rangers Revolver Brigade. McGill was significant figure amongst the Eureka diggers at the Stockade and while his post Eureka story is well enough known but his pre Eureka story is a mystery. </li>
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<b><i>IHM. Q. What’s your best tip for people wanting to write a history book of their own? </i></b><br />
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<li><b>Greg: </b>Be passionate about your topic, have a firm goal in mind to guide the direction your research takes, keep an open mind and follow leads that you may not have anticipated, have the patience to keep searching, be absolutely meticulous with your records, cite everything you use – so many ‘history’ books fail to do this. Let people know what you are doing; you will be pleasantly surprised by the interest and support they will show. </li>
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<b><i>IHM. Q. How did you go about bringing the characters to life? </i></b><br />
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<li><b>Greg: </b>The characters really did this for themselves. These were passionate and colourful people living in a passionate and colourful time and all one needed to do was to tell their stories.</li>
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<b><i>IHM. Q. How do you know when you’ve written a good book? </i></b><br />
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<li><b>Greg: </b>Good reviews are nice. Pats on the back are nice as well. The best thing though is to know you have done the best you can, to have covered all the bases and presented an account that is readable and informed.</li>
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<i>"Eureka Stockade: A ferocious and bloody battle, is the epic account of the attle for the Eureka Stockade, an iconic moment in Australian history. </i><i>On the chilly dawn morning of 3 December 1854 British soldiers and police of the Victorian colonial government attacked and stormed a crudely-built fortification erected by insurgent gold miners at the Eureka lead on the Ballarat Gold Diggings. The fighting was intense, the carnage appalling and the political consequences of the affair profound. </i><i>This book, for the first time, examines in great detail the actual military events that unfolded during the twenty minutes of deadly fighting at Eureka. Many of the old assumptions about what occurred that day are turned on the heads, raising in their places provocative questions. Were the intentions of the Eureka diggers as pacific as tradition insists? How was it that men supposedly poorly armed and taken completely by surprise in their sleep were able to deliver ‘sharp and well directed’ fire on their attackers? How close, in fact did the assaulting infantry come to failing in their task, and why has the pivotal part played by the police in the battle been ignored in every retelling of the Eureka story? Why have the Americans, who played a decisive part in the defence of the stockade been all but ignored? </i><i>The author argues convincingly that Eureka was not a wanton massacre of innocents, as it has been portrayed. Rather it was a hard fought military engagement. </i></div>
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<li><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0547876/" target="_blank">Lex Marinos</a>, </li>
<li><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0573172/" target="_blank">Rove McManus</a>, </li>
<li><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0444291/" target="_blank">Asher Keddie</a>, </li>
<li><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0146264/" target="_blank">Michael Caton</a>, and </li>
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But wait there's more! Series 5 will have 8 episodes instead of the 6 previously and the other 2 cast are yet to be announced but I'm sure our friends at <b><a href="http://www.sbs.com.au/" target="_blank">SBS Australia</a></b> will update us all soon. Pretty exciting!<br />
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Until then, you'll have to either get the <b><a href="http://www.sbs.com.au/shop/product/category/DVDs/8585/Who-Do-You-Think-You-Are-Australian-Series-4" target="_blank">Series 4 DVD</a></b> or look out for the regular re-runs on SBS1!<br />
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<br />Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-3483046240993389362012-10-26T19:41:00.001+11:002012-10-26T19:41:47.263+11:00Rathmines Catalina Festival :: 3 Nov 2012Did your relatives travel or fight in a flying boat? Yes? You'll like the <b><a href="http://www.catalinafestival.com.au/" target="_blank">Rathmines Catalina Festival</a></b> on the NSW Central Coast at Lake Macquarie on November 3.<br />
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The Rathmines Catalina Festival is an annual celebration of the rich history of the WWII RAAF Base. Now in its 6th year, the festival promotes the significance of the base both locally and nationally. The Rathmines RAAF base reached its peak strength of almost 3,000 RAAF personnel in 1944-45. It comprised 230 buildings and marine facilities and there were forty aircraft in service. The event serves to commemorate the significance of the former RAAF Base during WWII and pay respect to those who served at the Base and lost their lives through the war effort.<br />
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<b>Date: </b>Saturday 3 November 2012<br />
<b>When: </b>10 AM to 3.00 PM<br />
<b>Where: <a href="https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=Dorrington+Road+Rathmines&hl=en&client=safari&hnear=Dorrington+Rd,+Rathmines+New+South+Wales+2283&gl=au&t=m&z=15" target="_blank">Rathmines Park Dorrington Road Rathmines</a></b><br />
<b>Cost: </b>$5 for adults, children under 12 are free<br />
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Visit the website on <b><a href="http://www.catalinafestival.com.au/" target="_blank">www.catalinafestival.com.au </a></b><br />
Or Like it on Facebook: <b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rathmines-Catalina-Festival/137100446395385" target="_blank">Rathmines Catalina Festival </a></b><br />
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The Historical Aircraft Restoration Society (HARS) plans to fly its fully restored Consolidated PBY Amphibious Catalina (Registration VH-PBZ) from Albion Park to the 2012 Rathmines Catalina Festival. HARS plan to alight the Catalina on Lake Macquarie at approximately 10:30am, and then taxi up the ramp onto the hard stand at the former RAAF base. HARS will open the Cat to the public for inspection at the Festival. The aircraft will depart from Lake Macquarie at approximately 3pm for its return flight to Albion Park.<br />
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There will be RAAF Balloon and an authentic Beaufighter cockpit section, along with 10 light amphibious seaplanes flying in and parking on the hard stand at the Festival. These will include Lake Buccaneers, Super Petrels, and Seareays. De Havillland Tiger Moths from Luskintyre plan to flypast the Festival as a salute to the former RAAF base. Paul Bennet will fly an aerobatic display in his Pitts Special aircraft. All this and food stalls, playground for the kids and live music. The day has something for everyone.<br />
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<b><a href="http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Rose%20Bay%20pre%20war%201.htm" target="_blank">Rose Bay, Sydney</a></b></div>
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This week we talked about what's new at <b><a href="http://Ancestry.com.au/">Ancestry.com.au</a></b> with Brad Argent. Thanks again to Brad for sharing his knowledge and for agreeing to visit us again for another Facebook Expert Q&A on Thursday, 20th December. Please find the transcript of the Q&A and links.</div>
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<b>When: </b>NSW - ACT - VIC - TAS: 8:30-9:30pm AEDT | QLD: 7:30-8:30pm | WA: 5:30-6:30pm | NT: 7:00-8:00pm | SA: 8:00-9:00pm</div>
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Brad Argent is content director at <b><a href="http://www.ancestry.com.au/" target="_blank">Ancestry.com.au</a></b>. Australia’s leading family history website, with more than 10 billion searchable records in its Australian, NZ, UK, Europe and US collections.</div>
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<b>Top tips from Brad Argent:</b></div>
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<li>Make the most of wildcard searching; use an * and three letters either side or replace a single character with a ?</li>
<li>Think outside the box you live in; if you keep getting a hint or search result that suggests your ancestor was in another country – check it out to rule it out.</li>
<li>Use other people’s trees with caution – their research might not be as thorough as yours. Think of them as signposts on a journey – they point you in a direction but they shouldn’t stop you going there yourself to check it out.</li>
<li>If you get stuck use the customer service line - 1800 251 838 – you pay for it so make the most of it!</li>
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<b>Summary of links from:</b></div>
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<li><b><a href="http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1942" target="_blank">NSW Police Gazettes 1854-1930 collection</a></b></li>
<li><b><a href="http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=50008" target="_blank">Irish Newspapers, 1763-1890 collection</a></b></li>
<li>World Archives Project: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://community.ancestry.com.au/awap">http://community.ancestry.com.au/awap</a></b></span></li>
<li>Help – Ask a question: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://ancestryau.custhelp.com/app/home"><b>http://ancestryau.custhelp.com/app/home</b></a></span></li>
<li>Sticky Notes: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://ancestry-stickynotes-au.tumblr.com/">http://ancestry-stickynotes-au.tumblr.com</a></b></span></li>
<li>How To YouTube videos: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/AncestryAU">http://www.youtube.com/user/AncestryAU</a></b></span></li>
<li>Apps - iPad, iPhone, Android: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://www.ancestry.com.au/ancestry-app">http://www.ancestry.com.au/ancestry-app</a></span></b></li>
<li>More links below the session transcript</li>
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Our Expert Q&A with Brad Argent, from Ancestry.com.au starts at 8:30pm AEDT. Tonight we’ll be discussing what's new at Ancestry.com.au and how to get the best from it.</div>
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Reminder: Keep refreshing your browser to see the answers & questions as they appear. Welcome everyone, thanks for joining us tonight. Brad is here to answer your questions on all things Ancestry.com.au. Welcome Brad!</div>
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<b><i>Q. Hi Brad, we were wondering what's your favourite story from the new <a href="http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1942" target="_blank">NSW Police Gazettes 1854-1930 collection</a>?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Hi everyone! As for the Police Gazettes there are so many great stories – every page is full of stuff. When we were testing the collection I asked one of the guys in the office to give me the names of their ancestors to check. First cab off the rank and – jackpot. This colleague’s ancestor was arrested for doing something rather ‘unsavoury’. I won’t go into details but it was something of a surprise– they’re saving the story for the Christmas dinner table. Needless to say it’s riddled with my ancestors, but then I already knew who the dodgy ones were.</div>
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<b>A. Leonie: </b>Hi Brad, just dropped in to say "Hi"!</div>
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<b>A. Brad:</b> Hi Leonie :-)</div>
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<b><i>Q (b). Chez: Hi Brad...<3 that the police gazettes came on line today...did a precursory search this morning and will be going back to really look later tonight - what advice can you give as to the best way to search this new resource</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Hi Chez, This collection was indexed by the community and they recorded names dates ages (if given) locations and 'type' of mention. If you see your ancestor come up in a search with Theft next to their name it only records the age (estimated) of the perpetrator - everyone else listed is usually a victim. BTW Chez, these records make great browsing material.</div>
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<b>A. Kerry: </b>Just a quick hello from me too Brad - unfortunately i have to be somewhere else shortly. I was thrilled to find a couple of records where a direct ancestor was being sought, for the physical descriptions included. Also interesting was to find my g.grandfather's shop was robbed, for the list of items taken & values.</div>
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<b>A. Christine: </b>OMG I knew of one theft my GGGrandfather did but I have just had a look and he has a long history with the police haha</div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Hi Kerry. Thanks for the feedback.</div>
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<b>A. Seonaid: </b>Just a quick hi from me too Brad. Am off to bed, nearly 11pm here. Our favourite database is the Birmingham, Warwickshire, England, Pub Blacklist, 1903-1906 - a really quirky one with photos we like to look at.</div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>I love that one Seonaid!</div>
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<b>A. Seonaid: </b>Anyway, Keep up the good work, love the new data coming through! Good night all.</div>
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<b>A. Beverly:</b> Hi Brad, love your work and ancestry.com.au. Can't wait to go for a search in the Police Gazettes as I'm sure there's a few of mine in there.</div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Hi Beverly, with over 1.5 million people listed in the Gazettes I'm sure you'll find someone - even if they were just a victim. I always find it interesting to see what was stolen and what it was worth - who'd have thought that it was worth going to the police over a stolen bucket ?</div>
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<b><i>Q. Hi Brad, after the success of the Police Gazettes project, what's your next crowdsourcing project for the World Archives Project</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>As for the next crowd-sourcing project well there’s always a heap of projects on offer. I’ve got two really big ones coming up for Australia – Fairfax Public Notices (18?? – 2009) and Col Sec Papers (1826 -1856). Lookout for these in the first half of 2013.</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's the link to the World Archives Project for everyone :: <b><a href="http://community.ancestry.com.au/awap">http://community.ancestry.com.au/awap</a></b></div>
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<b>Comment - tip: Wendy: </b>My tip of the day to Ancestry users is , before you save a 'document' to your tree , save it to your hard-drive !! My sub has run out so I have Trees full of census , bmd reg , shipping records , etc that I can't access .... very annoyed with myself.</div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Good tip Wendy. Online trees are for sharing - not storage!</div>
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<b>A. Kerry: </b>My tip to Ancestry users is to follow up when Ancestry advises you that someone else has saved or downloaded a record about your direct ancestor. I followed up one such recently & found a new 3rd cousin, with info solving one of my puzzles.</div>
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<b><i>Q. Pam: Hi, I looked up the Londonderry Journal but cant read it, I know my ancestors appeared in another early Londonderry paper, can I print it out?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Hi Pam, You should be able to print out any records you find on the site but remember the resolution will only be as good as the source. As the Newspaper comes from microfilm the images can, at times, be hard to read. If you’re having trouble you can call Customer Services on 1800 251 838.</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's the link to the Ancestry.com.au How To YouTube videos as well :: <b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/AncestryAU">http://www.youtube.com/user/AncestryAU</a></b></div>
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<i><b>Q (b). Chez: Brad talking about printing , sometimes when printing the document is hard to adjust size wise....suggestions? Even if saved to the computer if enlarged, with some images pixelate when enlarged to read on the computer</b></i></div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Hi Chez, There's so many variable when it comes to printing. I usually download the image and then print it, rather than printing from the screen as it gives me more control. Give the Customer Service team a call next time you get stuck and they can talk you through your specific issue (1800 251 838).</div>
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<b>A. Chez:</b> Thanks Brad....as the trouble actually occurs after downloading and trying to print!</div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Sounds odd, Chez. Give the Customer Service people a ring and see if they can fix it...</div>
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<b><i>Q. Pam: I wrote to ancestry once and told you your Griffiths valuations are not complete for Tyrone, and I dont believe it was fixed</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Hi Pam, with 10 Billion records maintenance takes a little time. I'll have to check back with the team in the US to see where we are at with that particular update. As always if you see an issue please let us know.</div>
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<b><i>Q. Andrew: Hi Brad, is there any new WA content coming on soon that you can hint about!?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Hi Andrew - we're working on the Perth Rate Books. Might take a while but will be an fantastic asset once it's up and running.</div>
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<b>A. Andrew: </b>Thanks Brad! Myself and the <b><a href="http://www.carnamah.com.au/" target="_blank">Carnamah Historical Society & Museum</a></b> will be looking forward to that addition.</div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>I'd love to do some more stuff from Tassie - indexing their fantastic collection of colour convict records for a start. It's definitely on my list.</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's a link to the <b><a href="http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11" target="_blank">Tasmanian Archives Convict Index</a></b></div>
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<b>A. Wendy: </b>Another really interesting site for Tas Convict info is this project , they have combined all their records so you can find info like family members .... <b><a href="http://foundersandsurvivors.org/">http://foundersandsurvivors.org/</a></b></div>
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<b><i>Q. Hi Brad, we've had a question from twitter. Q. Any advice for checking the accuracy of data on personal family trees?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Great question. With Trees multiplying at a terrifying pace one is best served by treating them with caution. Any online family tree (Ancestry or anywhere) one should always check to see that the data is sourced and then CHECK THE SOURCE. Online trees are a great way of finding stuff out but they are not substitute for doing your own research. Think of them like a map that guides you to a destination, but you still have to do the travelling.</div>
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<b><i>Q. Andrew: Hi again Brad, another question! Are there plans to index digitised records that are presently un-indexed?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Andrew: </b>For example, only some years of the Australian Electoral Rolls are name indexed.</div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Funny you should ask that Andrew... :-) That project is underway right now.</div>
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<b>A. Andrew: </b>That's exciting! It will be amazingly useful to more closely track the movements of people. Any additional years being added!?</div>
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<b><i>Q. Hi Brad, we know that the Irish love a good craic, what's your favourite story from the 30 new Irish newspapers [1763-1890] just added to Ancestry :: <a href="http://ancstry.me/UoOQnz">http://ancstry.me/UoOQnz</a>.</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>I came across an interesting wedding notice. The bride was 16. The groom, 92 was carried into the service in a chair. Can’t be sure if it was a real notice or just…Irish…</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>lol, leave them laughing we say :) Thanks again Brad for joining us tonight and giving us your tips and hints about the future!</div>
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<b>A. Brad: </b>Always a pleasure.</div>
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<b>A. Andrew: </b>Thank you Brad, <b><a href="http://Ancestry.com.au/">Ancestry.com.au</a></b> and <b><a href="http://www.insidehistory.com.au/" target="_blank">Inside History Magazine</a></b>! Will be keenly following new additions :)</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>We’ll publish the questions, answers and links from tonight’s session in a blog post this coming week. Visit http://www.ancestry.com.au for a free 14 day trial or share your stories and ask your questions on https://www.facebook.com/ancestry.com.au. Brad will be back in December for another Q&A.</div>
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<b>Next Week: </b>Who's joining us for next Thursday's Expert Q&A? Lisa Murray from the <b><a href="http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/aboutsydney/historyandarchives/default.asp" target="_blank">City of Sydney</a></b> & the <b><a href="http://home.dictionaryofsydney.org/" target="_blank">Dictionary of Sydney</a></b>. Find out how to research cemeteries in Sydney & NSW. Dr Lisa Murray is the City Historian for the City of Sydney & is currently the Chair of the Dictionary of Sydney.</div>
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This week we talk to Kerry Greenwood, author of the Phryne Fisher novel <i><b><a href="http://www.allenandunwin.com/default.aspx?page=94&book=9781742372433" target="_blank">Unnatural Habits</a></b></i> released by <a href="http://www.allenandunwin.com/" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">Allen & Unwin</a><b> </b>and <b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/InsideHistoryMagazine" target="_blank">we're giving away 5 copies of her new book</a></b> over on our facebook page.<b> </b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/InsideHistoryMagazine" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">Click here to enter</a>!<br />
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The Phryne Fisher series includes Cocaine Blues, Flying too High, Murder on the Ballarat Train, Death at Victoria Dock, Blood and Circuses, The Green Mill Murder, Ruddy Gore, Urn Burial, Raisins and Almonds, Death Before Wicket, Away with the Fairies, Murder in Montparnasse, The Castlemaine Murders, Queen of the Flowers, Death by Water, Murder in the Dark, Murder on a Midsummer Night and Dead Man's Chest.<br />
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The Phryne Fisher series (pronounced Fry-knee, to rhyme with briny) began in 1989 with Cocaine Blues which was a great success. Kerry says that as long as people want to read them, she can keep writing them. Find out more about the series at: <b><a href="http://www.phrynefisher.com/">www.phrynefisher.com</a> </b>and follow the brilliant ABC TV series, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/phrynefisher" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries</a>.<br />
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Below we asked Kerry about her writing and happily she answered. You can also find more from Kerry Greenwood in our Issue 10: May-Jun 2012 edition, where Emma Sutcliffe spoke with Kerry about Phryne Fisher and her adventures. <b><a href="http://www.insidehistory.com.au/" target="_blank">Click to buy Issue 10</a></b>.<br />
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<li><b>Kerry:</b> I have always loved stories, and history is a collection of fascinating stories, so I combined the two - and when I have researched enough, the story demands to be told. It's intoxicating.</li>
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<li>Kerry: Newspapers. Extra information. What Umberto Eco calls the 'relished inessentials'.</li>
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<b><i>IHM. Q. Favourite website? </i></b>Kerry: <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/" target="_blank">Trove</a></b><br />
<b><i>IHM. Q. Favourite library? </i></b>Kerry: <b><a href="http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/" target="_blank">State Library of Victoria</a></b><br />
<b><br /><i>IHM. Q. What resources did you come across when researching your books that hasn't been widely used by others?</i></b><br />
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<li><b>Kerry: </b>People. I got to interview people who were around in 1928. So I listened to the voices, the accents, the slang, and I also had the privilege of asking questions.</li>
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<li><b>Kerry:</b> I found a brave policeman in Castlemaine who stopped an anti-Chinese riot. He had no name, just a number from a system of which all records were lost, but I found him, gave him his name, and he has a plaque on the wall at the new Castlemaine police station. Until I found him and named him his courage was forgotten...</li>
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<li><b>Kerry: </b>The miserable cruel lives of the women in the Magdalen Laundry. Reduced me to pulp, and I had to keep on reading.</li>
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<b><i>IHM. Q. Which stories amused you the most in the course of your research?</i></b><br />
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<li><b>Kerry: </b>I really laughed at the method of producing ortolans en brochette in Australia. And I found a minties ad of one man hanging on to another man's shoe which is coming off as they both dangle from a girder high up above the ground. The caption is 'Stop laughing, this is serious!' There's something very Australian about it.</li>
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<li><b>Kerry: </b>I won't know until I start researching the next Phryne. There is always something... Do I get a wish?</li>
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<li><b>Kerry: </b>Read novels set in the time, then read all the newspapers and magazines you can find, before wandering in and out of a few museums... and see how many voice/oral history tapes you can find. Voices are important. And if you are writing your own memoirs, consider what your audience wants to know ie. what you had for breakfast, who cooked it, what was your school uniform like, how did you get to school, who were your friends... all that sort of thing - and how you FELT... rather than a potted history of your time. There are plenty of them but only you know how you hated wearing gloves, and how that starched collar scored your neck.</li>
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<li><b>Kerry: </b>They tell me how to write the book. Imagine them well enough and for long enough, and they'll start talking to you.</li>
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<i>"The attack came suddenly. Out of the hot darkness in the notorious Little Lon came three thugs armed with bicycle chains. The tallest lashed his against the crumbling side of a building. It hit a metal sign advertising Dr Parkinson’s Pink Pills for Pale People, which rang like a drum.</i><br />
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<i>She was the Hon. Miss Phryne Fisher, five feet two with eyes of green and black hair cut into a cap. They were not the target of this assault. They were blamelessly approaching the Adventuresses Club bent on nothing more controversial than a White Lady (Phryne) and a dram of good single malt (Dr MacMillan) and an evening’s exchange of views on weather, politics and medicine. But Little Lonsdale Street was always liable to provide unexpected experiences. However, the person who was fated for a good shellacking appeared to be lone, female and unprotected, which could not be allowed. Phryne turned abruptly on her Louis heel and, putting both fingers in her mouth, whistled shrilly. </i><br />
<i>‘Look out, boys!’ she yelled. ‘Cops!...........'"</i><br />
From Chapter 1 of <i>Unnatural Habits</i>. Click here to read more from the <b><i><a href="http://www.allenandunwin.com/_uploads/BookPdf/Extract/9781742372433.pdf" target="_blank">Unnatural Habits</a></i></b>, from our friends at <b><a href="http://www.allenandunwin.com/" target="_blank">Allen & Unwin</a></b><br />
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Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-42275645004814893072012-10-11T20:30:00.000+11:002013-01-24T14:14:19.637+11:00Expert Q&A :: How to research Anzac war graves & ancestorsOn Thursday, October 11 we were lucky to have the dedicated military historian and war graves researcher, Matt Smith, join us for an Expert Q&A on how to research war graves and Anzac ancestors. Please find the transcript of the Q&A and links.<br />
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Matt Smith's project, <b><a href="http://www.australianwargraves.org/" target="_blank">Australian War Graves Photographic Archive</a>,</b> began in 2000, and is committed to procuring a digital photograph of every Australian War Grave and Memorial Commemoration worldwide. This commitment stems from a labour of respect dedicated to the supreme sacrifice made by our Australian military personnel. The searchable database at the core of the site was formally launched for Remembrance Day 2011. The site displays images of the commemorations, and offers a range of free resources to families and researchers of our war dead.<br />
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Australian War Graves Photographic Archive: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.australianwargraves.org/">http://www.australianwargraves.org/</a></b></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Office of Australian War Graves: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.dva.gov.au/commems_oawg/OAWG/Pages/index.aspx">http://www.dva.gov.au/commems_oawg/OAWG/Pages/index.aspx</a></b></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Australian War Memorial collection: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/search/collections/">http://www.awm.gov.au/search/collections/</a></b></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Australian War Memorial Embarkation Roll :: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/first_world_war_embarkation/">http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/first_world_war_embarkation/</a></b></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Commonwealth War Graves Commission - Find War Dead: </span><b><a href="http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/">http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/</a></b></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">National Archives of Australia - Service Records: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/explore/defence/service-records/index.aspx">http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/explore/defence/service-records/index.aspx</a></b></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Mapping our Anzacs :: </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://mappingouranzacs.naa.gov.au/">http://mappingouranzacs.naa.gov.au</a></b></span></li>
<li>Mapping our Anzac linking to NAA RecordSearch: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://wraggelabs.com/emporium/recordsearch-tools/recordsearch-link-to-mapping-our-anzacs/">http://wraggelabs.com/emporium/recordsearch-tools/recordsearch-link-to-mapping-our-anzacs/</a></b></span></li>
<li>Archives Viewer. An experimental viewer for digitised files in the <b><a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/" target="_blank">National Archives of Australia</a></b> RecordSearch database: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://dhistory.org/archives/naa/">http://dhistory.org/archives/naa/</a></span></b></li>
<li>Australian Light Horse Studies Centre: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://alh-research.tripod.com/Light_Horse/">http://alh-research.tripod.com/Light_Horse/</a></b></span></li>
<li>The AIF Project: <b><a href="http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au</span></a></b></li>
<li>WWI Pictorial Honour Roll of West Australians: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://ww1wa.gravesecrets.net/w.html">http://ww1wa.gravesecrets.net/w.html</a></b></span></li>
<li>Anglo Boer War: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.angloboerwar.com/">http://www.angloboerwar.com</a></b></span></li>
<li>Victorian War Forum: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.victorianwars.com/">http://www.victorianwars.com</a></b></span></li>
<li>Trove Newspapers: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper">http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper</a></span></b></li>
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<b>Transcript of Expert Q&A - How to research Anzac war graves and ancestors, with Matt Smith</b><br />
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Our Expert Q&A with Matt Smith starts at 8:30pm DST. Tonight’s topic: How to research war graves and Anzac ancestors. Please ask your questions for Matt in a comment below & he will answer in a following comment.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Sharon [October 10]: I might miss this week's session. My relative made it home but there is much of his life unknown. He enlisted for WW1 from Torrington, NSW. He came home, spent time in Cessnock. We have his war records but would like to know more of his life story. We know some up until Cessnock but then he moved to Perth and was at a distance from the family in Cessnock. He served in WW2 in and around Perth. I have had trips to Perth but never had time to investigate. He died in Perth. His war medals have gone missing for WW1 and he appears to have died with no money and no possessions. Nothing was sent to the family and it appears the family didn't ask. He is in an unmarked grave in Karrakatta. I have had a memorial done in Rookwood NSW so the family can visit but the details on the plaque are wrong and I haven't had a chance to correct them. So, my questions are - can I do any online searches on my uncle regarding his life in WA? How do I get the memorial fixed? Would it be the war graves people as they approved it? His name is Jack Warland. Thanks.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Hi Sharon, I am getting in early here before the Q and A starts officially. Firstly because I can't help myself and secondly because you might miss the session. That said, I can tell you that John (Jack) Warland was wounded during WWI, but after the war he was a member of the Australian Graves Detachment from April - August 1919. He was burying the dead in France and assisting with the development of the war cemeteries. As you mentioned, he served during WW2 in WA and was discharged in 1946. The first thing that I would do is to contact the Office of Australian War Graves - <b><a href="http://www.dva.gov.au/commems_oawg/OAWG/Pages/index.aspx" target="_blank">www.dva.gov.au</a></b> - (02) 6289 6510 and ask the questions about the status of his war grave in Karrakatta. That will determine if he should have an official headstone or whether the family opted out. If he should have a war grave, then they should provide one. You would need to have him assessed with birth certificate etc etc. Then I would check the census records for WA to see if they have him recorded and where he is recorded. There was a census in 1947, 1954, and 1961, following which it was every 5 years. If you can locate him, you can track him. Also the Births, Deaths and Marriage records would be the next step.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Cheryl: Hi Matt, my great, great uncle emigrated from London to Australia. He died whilst in service with the 52nd battalion AIF on 4 Sept 1916 nr Moquet Farm. 760 Sergeant Charles Emerson Watling. I have his medal awarded in death (was hung in my dads room while he was young but he never asked who it belonged to!) and a photo of his grave. I have tried to search myself for a photo of Charles or even of his battalion for quite some time without success. Your help or advice with this would be so appreciated. Kind regards, Cheryl x</i></b><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Hi Cheryl, Obviously the first place to start would be the Australian War Memorial collection - <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/search/collections/">http://www.awm.gov.au/search/collections/</a>. </b>Then, I would follow with a simple Google Search - try some combinations of his name i.e. Charles Watling or Watling 52nd Battalion. Then I would try <b><a href="http://ww1wa.gravesecrets.net/w.html">http://ww1wa.gravesecrets.net/w.html</a></b> - Faithe Jones is the lady at the end of this one. Then follow the other leads such as Broken Hill connections, 52nd Battalion history, WA Archives - remember that the 52nd Battalion came from the 12th Battalion, so that is another connection. Hope that helps?<br />
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<b><i>Q. Wendy: Hi Matt, I have been doing my family history for 2 yrs now and found information on my maternal grandfather Albert James Byron who went off as a cook in WW1 at age 44 in 1916 on the SS Afric, my mother was only 9 when he died and I have never ever seen a picture of him. I did manage to find he is buried in an unmarked grave at Rookwood and I did send off a letter last year to the War Graves Commission and have only just got a reply saying he is not entitled to have his grave site marked with a plaque as he did not see active service or died from war related injuries which I was disappointed to hear. Is there any other places I could try and find a photo of him? I would be very grateful for any assistance, thank you</i></b><br />
A. Matt: Hi Wendy, great to hear from you. The Office of Australian War Graves should not have told you that he did not see active service, as that is totally untrue. He was on active service for two years overseas during WWI. And he served in the Boer War, albeit with a non-Australian unit. Here are two links for further research into his Boer War Service. He served in Kitchener's Fighting Scouts. His Boer War service is listed on this web-site - <b><a href="http://www.angloboerwar.com/component/content/article/5-south-african-unit-histories/350-kitcheners-fighting-scouts">http://www.angloboerwar.com/component/content/article/5-south-african-unit-histories/350-kitcheners-fighting-scouts</a></b>. - Albert James Byron 2236 Trooper Served in 1st KFS. Joined Durban 16 Apr 02 Discharged 7 Jul 02 disbandment Johannesburg<br />
Source: Nominal roll in WO127 OR - <b><a href="http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=872" target="_blank">Victorian Wars Forum</a></b>. A really common story, and very frustrating. Of course the Australian War Memorial is the first port of call for WWI photos, but if no luck there, try this book - <b><a href="http://regimental-books.com.au/give-me-back-my-dear-old-cobbers-58th-59th-battalions-aif-p-157.html" target="_blank">Give Me Back My Dear Old Cobbers - 58th & 59th Battalions AIF</a></b>, Robin Corfield. There are a lot of other connections if you need them. As the for his grave in Rookwood, I would ring DVA Office of Australian War Graves with some more evidence and check availability for a grave again. If they still say no, then contact Rookwood and place one yourself. I hope that helps?<br />
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<b><i>Q. Linda: I have just checked the Commonwealth War Graves website, and was wondering what the 'Civilian War Dead" covered. I was particularly looking for Louie Riggall, a woman from Maffra, Victoria, who died France at the end of WWI. She was a VAD in the British Red Cross, working in a military hospital at Rouen, when she died of fever. After much controversy, she was NOT included on the Shire Honor Roll, as she was not considered "enlisted". Her family had considerable resources, and donated a plaque that is now in the Maffra Library (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20949561@N04/3599509181/" target="_blank">click for photo on flickr</a>). On my search, I could not find a listing for her. I was wondering if she came within the scope of "Civilan War Dead", if she was in a military or civilian cemetery, and if the War Graves Commission cared for her grave.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Matt:</b> Hi Linda, Lousia Riggall is listed under the CWGC. <b><a href="http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/75197956/RIGGALL,%20LOUISA" target="_blank">Click for her direct link</a></b>. The Red Cross, YMCA, VADs etc etc are usually all listed as Auxiliary or quasi-military units.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Christine: Do you happen to know of any records relating to pilgrimages by Australians during the inter-war years? 1919-1939. George Risdon Grimwade, there is a letter written about his death, where would I find this, please?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Christine Alexander, the best place to find these records is the National Archives of Australia. Go to www.naa.gov.au and search for 'Pilgrimage' with the dates 1919 - 1939. I did a simple one just now and came up with some great ones. Not all are digitised, but it is a start! :-)<br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Christine, Not sure about the letter, but I have found this link: <b><a href="http://oa.anu.edu.au/obituary/grimwade-george-risdon-14824">http://oa.anu.edu.au/obituary/grimwade-george-risdon-14824</a></b><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Christine, <b><a href="http://www.smythe.id.au/letters/">http://www.smythe.id.au/letters/</a></b><br />
<b>A. Christine: </b>thank you, I wish I could remember the site, it is a collection of letters written by fellow soldiers and officers, about how their loved ones died and where and if they were buried. I actually know a lot about George, his parents carried a 70lb piece of granite to Gallipoli when they visited his grave in 1922.<br />
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Welcome everyone, thanks for joining us tonight. Welcome also to Matt. Please ask your questions for him in a comment below. Don't forget to keep refreshing your browser to see the answers and questions from others as they appear.<br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Hi Everyone!! Thanks for having me!<br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Hi All, It is easier to answer questions regarding individuals if you can provide a name and/or service number. :-)<br />
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<b><i>Q. Link: I'm looking for info on my great grandfather, I have correspondence from the armed forces saying he was part of 1st battalion field artillery but when I search his name on the war memorial website I get nothing! I can find battalion history but no record of him, any suggestions?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Link, Can you throw a name our way??<br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Link, have you tried NAA for service record ? <a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/explore/defence/service-records/index.aspx" target="_blank"><b>www.naa.gov.au</b></a><br />
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<b>A. Link: </b>Hey Matt, His name was Earnest Walter Stanborough, His allotted army number: 205, rank of gunner and he enlisted on the 28th August 1914, He sailed to the mediteranean on the HMAT Argyleshire with the 1st Field artillery brigade! This is all we have!<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Hi Link Miller, have you checked the Australian War Memorial Embarkation Roll :: <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/first_world_war_embarkation/">http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/nominal_rolls/first_world_war_embarkation/</a></b><br />
<b>A. Link: </b>No, I haven't checked this page, I've looked on the service roll! Is that "Allotted Army Number" the same as a service number? I'll have to check the embark list tomorrow, unfortunately I have to go to work shortly :(<br />
<b>A. Link: </b>Thanks for your help guys, gotta go to work now, the search continues!!!!<br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>A message for Link Miller - Your GGrandfather is recorded as 205 Ernest STANBROUGH (note the spelling of the surname). And also depending on who transcribed the documents his middle name varies between 'Walter' and 'Walker'. He also served in WW2 and both his service files have been combined into one at the National Archives. <b><a href="http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=6617499" target="_blank">Click here to see the record</a></b>.<br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Thanks Tim! Great Wingman!<br />
<b>A. Wendy: </b>Yes and a very good 'digger detective' :)<br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>I only hope Link returns here to view the information so his searching doesn't continue fruitlessly.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Sheryl: Hi Matt, I am looking for a photo of Clarence Raymond Rudolph Gosper b.1889 5th June Australia. d. France (Bullecourt) 3rd May 1917 and haven't yet been successful. Any advice for me would be appreciated. Hi Matt, Sorry. Clarence Raymond Rudolph Gosper 6025 b.1889 5th June Australia. d. France (Bullecourt) 3rd May 1917</i></b><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Hi Sheryl, It is difficult to locate images of individuals unless obvious like the AWM website. He is a Richmond NSW boy, so I would take that track - <a href="http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/memorial/richmond_war_memorial/rrwm080.html" style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/memorial/richmond_war_memorial/rrwm080.html</span></a>. Perhaps approach a local Richmond Genealogist or historical group!<br />
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>There's lot's of useful tools on the Australian War Memorial site :: <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/research/"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.awm.gov.au/research/</span></a></b><br />
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<b><i>Q. Carmel: Looking for William George Fox of SA. He died 11 Nov 1917. Egypt would love to find a photo. He was the son of William George Cuttle but took on his stepfather's name. I am not able to find William George in the archives but have newspaper reports of his death.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Carmel, try this link - <b><a href="http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=4019564"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=4019564</span></a></b><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Carmel, contact the Australian Light Horse Studies centre website - australian.light.horse.studies@gmail.com<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>Thanks Matt, but why was my searches not finding him? I have found others without issues. Also I found records of one of my uncles, killed in WW1 which was the same as an inquest, with witnesses and details of his death. I believe it was a Red Cross record and found online. It usually takes me some time to track this record down, do you know if these are available for all who were killed?<br />
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<b><i>Q. Monica: Do you have photos of men who served in WW1, e.g. enlistment photos?</i></b><br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Hi Monica Chappell, you can search the Australian War Graves Photographic Archive online at <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.australianwargraves.org/">http://www.australianwargraves.org</a></b></span><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Hi Monica, the Australian War Graves Photographic Archive holds photos of the war graves and memorial commemorations. Individual portrait images are being collected, but one of the best sources of 'catalogued' images after the AWM collection is here - <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://www.gravesecrets.net/wwi-pictorial-honour-rolls.html">http://www.gravesecrets.net/wwi-pictorial-honour-rolls.html</a></span></b><br />
<b>A. Monica: </b>Thanks for the links but no photos for me there. :(<br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Monica, quite often to find a portrait photo of an individual we need to search at a town or suburb level, rather than a national or state level. Find a location that can link to the person and start there.<br />
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<b>Comment - tip: Wendy: </b>AIF Project is also a handy resource and Mapping Our Anzacs for photos in the Scrapbook, although they can be a little out with transription :) For eg, looked up a bloke from Picton NSW and MOA had Picton Cananada, when clearly his record stated NSW :) Google is great for Battalion pages and ancestors who have put war diaries and letters etc online. I've found some amazing stuff while researching :)</div>
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<b>A. Matt: </b>You are right Wendy!! We have to approach research with open eyes and don't always believe everything that you read or see in the first instance. Find some back up research or data to support.</div>
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<b>A. IHM:</b> Here's the link to the AIF Project for everyone here :: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/index.html">http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/index.html</a></span></b></div>
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<b>A. Matt: </b>The best thing about the AIF Project is the Embarkation Roll links and the fact that we can now search for a place of birth or origin. For that ease of research I am happy to trawl through a few mistakes. Great site! I use it daily.</div>
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<b>A. Wendy: </b>Agree Matt :) Have you looked up where you live now?</div>
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<b>A. Wendy: </b>Totally agree with you Matt, I was knocked over by how many photos were at our Historical Society when I started researching <b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/WW1lostboys" target="_blank">Wedderburn's WW1 Diggers</a></b> and if there isn't one in uniform you may find them in Cricket or Footy Team photos or the Firebrigade it was popular with our lads. Please also contact the RSLs associated with your digger before and after service, have come across incredible portrait dedications. Our local CFA has huge portrait pics of their boys who served and a local flour mill even built their own memorial. If they were a teacher in Victoria check out Victoria Educations WW1 Book or contact me and I can look them up .... I know where 2 copies are :) Newspapers also printed lots of photos of Diggers so check "TROVE" under name and Battalion. Will list any more avenues when I think of them :)</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Great advice, Wendy Stewart - I think we have to mention your FB page if we're talking about your research :: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/WW1lostboys">http://www.facebook.com/WW1lostboys</a></b></span> And another resource is ANZACs Online :: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://anzacsonline.net.au/">http://anzacsonline.net.au</a></span></b></div>
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<b>A. Wendy: </b>Thanks IHM We Will Remember Them is the page for our local reasearch project using the Wedderburn, Korong Vale and Woosang Memorials as a basis. WW1 LB began as a means to identifying the other 13 Tunnellers in the profile pic with my Great Grandfather Mannie Penneyston, he's front and centre. I may have id the young man at the back 2nd on left, he's missing half of his index finger and joined within days of Mannie. Anyway the page has grown beyond anything I imagined thanks to some wonderful people who are happy to share knowledge on all things military. I have had the great pleasure of sharing so many stories and have helped family 'discover' who the Digger is in their family :) On the project side I have been blessed with meeting several sons and daughters of 'Our Diggers'.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Matt, What would be your top tips for researching your military ancestors?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>First and foremost, have an idea of what it is that you are trying to achieve!!!! Do a Google search!!! :-) If it is an ancestor who died, check on the Australian War Memorial website – <b><a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/">www.awm.gov.au</a></b>, or the Australian War Graves Photographic Archive website – <b><a href="http://www.australianwargraves.org/">www.australianwargraves.org</a></b> – to see if they died or survived the war. Or go to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission - <b><a href="http://www.cwgc.org/">www.cwgc.org</a></b>. If your ancestor survived or died, then the AWM is your best start. Then do a search on the National Archives website - <b><a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/">www.naa.gov.au</a></b> for their service record. Then, in the service record, look for ‘place’ locations that you can identify in current Australia, or on the battlefield areas. These will assist with making sense of service. Look for the Red or Blue handwritten text in Service Files. This can provide the key for research links. Use other individuals that may have been in the same unit or at a location at the same time as your ancestor to assist with filling in missing information. Look to the Red Cross Wounded and Missing Files at the AWM website - <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="https://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/wounded_and_missing/">https://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/wounded_and_missing/</a></b></span>. Treat them with caution as to accuracy, but if you can corroborate a number of eyewitness accounts then there is a fair chance that the story is accurate. It is all relative though.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Matt, What do you have in the pipeline that we should be excited about?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Matt:</b> The biggest thing at this stage is the photos of the individual war graves and memorial commemorations of Australia’s War Dead that are being prepared for upload to the Australian War Graves Photographic Archive website – <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://www.australianwargraves.org/">www.australianwargraves.org</a></span></b>. It is a slow process, but will be great when completed. I am undertaking research on the Australian Graves Detachment, Australian Grave Services and Imperial War Graves Commission between 1919 and 1926, which is turning up some great connections. And, for anyone interested, I will be leading a battlefield research tour to ANZAC Day at Villers-Bretonneux, France in April 2013. All are welcome. We will also be at Gallipoli for 10 days after that in mid-May. Contact me for details - australianwargraves@bigpond.com. Still in preparation stage but I can furnish details.<br />
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<b><i>Q. IHM: Thanks for joining us Matt Smith. Well, we're out of time, we'll finish with one last question: </i></b><b><i>What is your favourite or most moving story you’ve found in your research?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Thanks Inside History Magazine, I do have one favourite story that has stuck with me all these years of research and contact with people regarding military history.....A few years ago I was contacted by an elderly lady in Brisbane who was seeking information about her brother who was killed in WWII. She mentioned that he had been killed near the Philippines but she didn’t know any more than that. I was able to do a quick search and found out that he was buried in Sai Wan War Cemetery in Hong Kong. Sai Wan Cemetery was the nearest main Commonwealth War Graves receiving cemetery to the Phillipines at that time. He had been killed on a Merchant Navy vessel during the Battle for Leyte Gulf as an Australian Army anti-aircraft deck gunner. I mentioned to the lady that I had a photo of her brother’s grave and then I asked if she was ‘Letty’ or ‘Brenda’. She asked me how I knew her name. I explained that there were names listed on the grave within the epitaph. She was amazed to think that her mother had included the names of her and her sister on the grave in their shortened versions, when her whole life she was discouraged from being called anything except ‘Violetta’. So Letty was linked to her brother’s grave in perpetuity. I think that is priceless!!!<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>I have a feeling that you don't want to stop answering questions! Thanks again for joining us tonight! We'll get to any questions that need follow-up tomorrow and publish the answers and links from tonight’s session in a blog post this coming week. Thanks Matt.<br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Thank you Inside History Magazine and thank you everyone. If you have photos of war graves or memorial commemorations, get on touch at australianwargraves@bigpond.com. We can use them on the website!<br />
<b>A. Sheryl: </b>Thank you Inside History and thank you Matt Smith.<br />
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<i><b>Q. Kerryn: Both WW2 and WW2?</b></i></div>
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<b>A. Matt: </b>Fire away Kerryn!</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>What is your grandmother's brother's name Kerryn Taylor?</div>
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<b>A. Kerryn: </b>Morgan ADAMS. Regimental number 1903. He came home but died a couple of years later</div>
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<b>A. IHM: </b>Hi Kerryn Taylor, here are the details for Morgan ADAMS - Regimental number<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>1903 in the National Archives of Australia WW1 records. <b><a href="http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NameSearch/Interface/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=3020902" target="_blank">Click for record</a></b>.</div>
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<b>A. Kerryn: </b>Thanks I have his service record he was 5th reinforcements 7 battalion but I can't find a company number. Perhaps there isn't one?<br />
<b>A. Wendy:</b> Kerryn Taylor here's a link to the other guys that went over seas with Morgan. I had a quick look at his file and could not see a 'Company' just 7th Bn but I would imagine that some became his good mates :) <b><a href="http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/showUnit?unitCode=INF7REIN5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au/showUnit?unitCode=INF7REIN5</span></a></b><br />
<b>A. Kerryn: </b>Thanks Wendy<br />
<b>A. Matt: </b>Well done Wendy, that was my next suggestion for Kerryn!! Thanks!<br />
<b>A. Kerryn: </b>I just found info on my 1st cousin twice removed on the Red Cross search link you gave. I put his picture on this wall earlier. They described him as dark haired and dark complexion ... Bugler William John Pike Morgan<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>That's great news Kerryn Taylor, time for a little happy dance? :)<br />
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Killed in action in the Australian Armed Forces Private William John Pike Morgan was in the 14th Battalion No 893 and was killed in Gallipoli 8/8/1915 - he was 18 years and 3 months old. </i><i>He lived at McGuinness Street, Euroa with his mother and father Thomas Fitzherbert II and Sarah (nee McNay) and attended Euroa State School before joining the Victoria Railways in Seymour, Victoria. </i><i>William belonged to the 10th Unit Volunteer Cadet Corps Jnr and Snr. William's brother Private Benjamin Robert Morgan, killed in Gernamy as result of P.O.A in Crete. William is bured in 6 Lone Pine memorial Panel 73. Source of Information: AWM 145 Roll of Honour cards, 1914-1918 War, Army.</i><br />
<b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151078665294499&set=o.148630695163178&type=1&theater" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">From Kerryn Taylor, October 11 on Facebook. Lest We Forget.</span></a></b><br />
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This week we talk to Peter Williams, author of <b><a href="http://www.cambridge.org/aus/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=9781107015944&ss=fro" style="font-style: italic;" target="_blank">The Kokoda Campaign 1942: Myth and Reality</a>. </b>Peter is a researcher for the Defence Honours and Awards Tribunal and is a military historian for the <b><a href="http://www.darwinmilitarymuseum.com.au/" target="_blank">Darwin Military Museum</a></b>. His new book combines narrative and detailed analysis, to re-evaluate the Kokoda campaign of 1942 and should be considered a must-read for anyone who is interested in Kokoda.</div>
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<i><b>IHM. </b></i><b><i>Q. What is the main point you make in The Kokoda Campaign 1942, myth and reality?</i></b><br />
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<i><b>IHM. </b></i><b><i>Q. Which stories amused you the most in the course of your research?</i></b><br />
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<li><b>Peter: </b>Australian veterans of New Guinea often told me, ‘You couldn’t see them in the jungle, the Japanese soldier was a master of camouflage’. Then I went to Japan and interviewed a dozen veterans there. I was surprised to hear many of them say exactly the same thing. ‘Those Australians were very good at hiding in the jungle, you couldn’t see them.’ In fact neither side had any special training in jungle warfare, I think it was rather the jungle itself. It was easy to hide in, but the men on both sides concluded that the enemy must be masters of jungle war. </li>
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<i><b>IHM. </b></i><b><i>Q. If you could track down one thing you haven’t yet managed to find out, what would it be?</i></b><br />
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<li><b>Peter: </b>I still have not figured out why the Kokoda story is so popular now. When I was a kid Kokoda wasn’t a famous Australian battle. That has changed in the last 20 years. Now thousands of us walk the track every year. </li>
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<i><b>IHM. </b></i><b><i>Q. What’s your best tip for people wanting to write a history book of their own? </i></b><br />
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<li><b>Peter: </b>Be prepared to work hard for a long time. Hank Nelson, a wonderful historian who died in February, once told me ‘a page a day is a book a year’. He meant do not be discouraged, do not give up. Do a little every day, just keep plugging away. </li>
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<i><b>IHM. </b></i><b><i>Q. How do you know when you’ve written a good history book? </i></b><br />
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<li><b>Peter: </b>In my book title there are the words ‘myth’ and ‘reality’. If you write a history book that challenges what people have always believed about a well-known subject, then you get a bit of criticism from those who do not want to let go of the old version, the myth. I have had a few unpleasant emails from readers who prefer the myth and do not like the new evidence I have found about Kokoda. But that’s good in a way, when you get flak you know you are over the target.</li>
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<i>"This book is an examination of the Kokoda campaign – from the Japanese landing in Papua in July 1942 and their advance along the Kokoda Track, to their defeat at Oivi–Gorari in November. The Kokoda campaign is catching up with Gallipoli in popularity, as is apparent from the number of books on it that have appeared in the past twenty-odd years and the thousands of Australians who now walk the Kokoda Track each year. As the events of 1915 pass into distant memory, it is possible that Kokoda might come to rival Gallipoli as the representative Australian military experience. While there are positive aspects to this, as its popularity increases errors in the Kokoda story have a tendency to be repeated until they take on the outward appearance of fact. Other aspects of the campaign, some arising from Australian wartime propaganda, have not been subject to postwar investigation. These two strands combine to create the Kokoda myth. Recent popular accounts, concerned more with colour than precision, perpetuate the myth.</i></div>
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<i>The core of the Kokoda myth is that during the Japanese advance towards Port Moresby the Australians were greatly outnumbered. Those in the front line were convinced of this, and their word has been accepted. Japanese veterans often say the same thing – that the Australians significantly outnumbered them. It may be that in jungle fighting, where the enemy is rarely seen, there is a tendency to imagine that he is in great strength. In truth, during the Japanese advance, the Australians were rarely outnumbered by their enemy. While Australia’s 39th Battalion and the Papuan Infantry Battalion faced superior numbers in the small July clashes, it was not as many as two to one. The forces engaged at Isurava, the first large action, have always been thought to have been at the very least three to one against the Australians and perhaps six to one. In fact the numbers were equal with about 2300 being engaged on either side. With the exception of the first Eora–Templeton’s Crossing fighting, where the Japanese did have almost twice as many troops as the Australians, the Australians fought the Japanese at one to one until Ioribaiwa in September, where it was the Australians who outnumbered the Japanese by two to one, yet the Australians were still defeated. During the Australian advance after Ioribaiwa they always maintained a great superiority of numbers over the Japanese.</i></div>
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<i>Numbers are important in war. To have a good prospect of success the attacker should usually have more men than the defender. The firepower of modern weapons so advantage a defender that a three-to-one local superiority is said to be needed to be reasonably certain of success if all other factors are equal. A two-to-one advantage provides a lesser chance of success but will sometimes be enough, and one to one is usually not enough for the attacker to prevail. When numbers alone do not explain victory or defeat – and it is rarely as simple as that – we look to the quality of the troops, their weapons, morale and supply, and how well they were commanded. Each of these elements can powerfully increase fighting power or, to use terms not in use in 1942, they are force multipliers that enhance combat effectiveness. For example, if the attacker’s men were of higher quality than those of the defender, or if the attacker had much more artillery or was better supplied, then he might not need any superiority in numbers to win. According to the Kokoda myth, it was the large Japanese numerical superiority that enabled them to advance as far as they did towards Port Moresby. If that is not true then other reasons for the series of Australian defeats on the Kokoda Track between July and September 1942 would be required. One possibility is that the Japanese were qualitatively superior to the Australians.</i></div>
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<i>A central fact of land warfare in the first year of the Japanese offensive in the Pacific from December 1941 is that, man for man, the Japanese proved to be better soldiers than those who opposed them. The proof is that up to the second half of 1942 the Japanese rarely had superior numbers engaged in land battles, yet they rarely lost one. They achieved their victories in Burma, the Dutch East Indies, during the Malayan campaign, in the final battle at Singapore and in the Philippines without a numerical advantage. Only when the Allies had a very considerable superiority, as at Milne Bay and Guadalcanal, were they able to defeat the Japanese. The Kokoda campaign fits this pattern.</i></div>
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<i>It might not be too much to say that most issues of the campaign ought to be reappraised if it can be shown that the Japanese engaged in the battles along the Kokoda Track were many fewer than has been believed. This word engaged holds a clue because, while the Nankai Shitai was more than 16 000 strong, the number the Japanese actually committed to battle on the Kokoda Track, which runs from Kokoda south over the Owen Stanley Range towards Port Moresby, was much smaller. The problem for the myth is that of a 16 000-strong Japanese force, of which 7000 were fighting troops, no more than 3500 of these actually advanced along the Kokoda Track.</i></div>
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<i>What has occurred in postwar Australian historiography might have something to do with the saying that the victors write the history. This is true as far as it goes, but much of what the victor later writes might not be accurate as it can arise out of his own wartime propaganda. The defeated too has wartime propaganda, but this is swept away postwar as it is immediately seen for what it usually is – falsehood. The victor’s propaganda is not subject to the same rigorous reassessment and has a chance to seep into later accounts and, over time, become entrenched there. Two examples of Australian wartime propaganda still read today, and which stress the Japanese numerical superiority, are George Johnston’s New Guinea Diary and Osmar White’s Green Armour, published in 1943 and 1945 respectively.</i></div>
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<i>The attempt to debunk Kokoda myths is not intended to denigrate the Australians who fought on the Kokoda Track. Their bravery and fortitude is not in question. It is rather that the current interpretation of the campaign is invalid. The Kokoda Campaign 1942, myth and reality, is an attempt to set aside the myth of Kokoda and replace it with the reality and, as the evidence that undoes the myth comes mainly from Japanese sources, it follows that more than half the book concerns the Nankai Shitai. The unfortunate contribution of Australian popular military history to the strength of the Kokoda myth was discussed earlier, but the problem is broader than that. The Kokoda myth has arisen because there exists a gap in Australian historiography: a wide range of Japanese sources have not hitherto been examined, although Raymond Paull, Lex McAulay and Paul Ham have all made some effort to do so. The result is a lack of balance in our understanding of the Kokoda campaign, a natural outcome, for if we try to explain an historical event involving two belligerents using sources from only one of them, then we should hardly expect to get it right".</i></div>
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Tania Riviere is the Senior Conservator of Services and Exhibitions at the <a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/" target="_blank">National Archives of Australia</a> and a qualified paper conservator. Cheryl Jackson is a Conservator of Photographic Materials at the National Archives of Australia and she has an interest in preventive conservation and conservation education.<br />
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<b>Top tips for preserving family photos from Cheryl Jackson</b><b>:</b><br />
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<li>Don't touch or write on the face of a print, inks and fingerprints can cause image material to deteriorate. </li>
<li>Don't apply sticky tape, even "preservation" tape. </li>
<li>Monitor your collection for mould and insect activity. </li>
<li>Use copy images for scrapbooking type projects. </li>
<li>Once you've spent lots of time digitizing your images, BACK UP YOUR WORK. Write your files to a disk or thumb drive and use these formats as a transport medium to another hard drive. Don't rely on disks or thumb drives as your only backup.</li>
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<li>My top tip would be packaging, make sure you have it. It doesn't need to be expensive. If all else fails, a styrofoam fruit packing box is sometimes all you need. Packaging ensures against dust, light and any potential disasters from water leaks, etc. </li>
<li>Remember to check on your records a few times a year, especially if they show evidence of past mould attack. </li>
<li>And lastly, if you have to force something open or closed, then don't, it will inevitably lead to disaster. </li>
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<li>National Archives of Australia: <a href="http://naa.gov.au/" target="_blank">http://naa.gov.au/ </a></li>
<li>National Archives of Australia contact form: <a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/about-us/contact" target="_blank">http://www.naa.gov.au/about-us/contact</a> </li>
<li>National Archives of Australia database: <a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/" target="_blank">http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/</a></li>
<li>National Archives of Australia Facebook page: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/naagovau" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/naagovau</a> </li>
<li>National Archives of Australia Preservation fact sheets: <a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/records-management/agency/preserve/physical-preservation/index.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.naa.gov.au/records-management/agency/preserve/physical-preservation/index.aspx</a></li>
<li>State Library of New South Wales Holtermann Collection: <a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/discover_collections/society_art/photography/holtermann/" target="_blank">http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/discover_collections/society_art/photography/holtermann/</a></li>
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<b>Comment: IHM:</b> Welcome everyone, thanks for joining us tonight. The rules are simple. Try to keep your questions concise and focused on the preservation of photographic and paper materials, that will help Cheryl and Tania to answer as many as possible in the hour that we have.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From </i><i>Geoff: Things <a href="https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554106_2763963312836_1009915720_n.jpg" target="_blank">like this</a> - keep them folded or flatten them? </i></b><b><i>Folded for 100 years, mind. Other examples in my fb album.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Deb: </b>I'd store flat items in acid-free mylar or polyethylene sleeves; could back them with acid-free cardboard for extra support. Then scan them once, high resolution, good scanner, no settings like "sharpening" or any color-correction activated, save as TIFF - scan front & back. Store photos & ephemera in a cool, dark area, or inside acid-free containers or folders. We have our family Bible in an acid-free box.<br />
<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>Q (b): From Geoff:</b></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"> Thanks, Deb. And WW1 postcards still bound in books? Are the original 'tissue' paper interleaves likely to be 'safe' for long term storage? Or should I add something else? They've done their job quite well since 1918, I must say.</span></b><br />
<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>A. Chez: </b>I don't think they make a big enough acid free box for the bible, any other suggestions?</span></b><br />
<b>A. Tania:</b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;"><span id=".reactRoot[61].[1][2][1]{comment533125903380320_6619942}..[1]..[1]..[0].[0][1]"> </span></span>Hi Geoff, thanks for your question. Deb has answered it pretty well. If the paper items are happy to lie flat ie: you don't have to force the creases, then yes, store them flat within some sort of protective pacakging. For things that at A4 to foolscap size (and smaller) in my experience you can't go past a view book - the type school kids use for assignments. These can be purchased from a supermarket or stationary store quite cheaply. Slip a piece of archival copy paper in the sleeve and your item should sit on top of that. The paper provides a level of rigidity to the item, and the plastic sleeve takes all the pressure from handling. You can photocopy through the plastic as well. Look for viewbooks that are labeled 'copy safe', Marbig is a good brand as well.<br />
<b>A. Tania:</b> The viewbooks are nice as they can hold a number of items within the one book, and are very easy to store. Plus you can add information about the items, by slipping typed notes etc into adjacent sleeves.<br />
<b>Q (c): From Geoff:</b> Thanks Tania. Figured it would be like that. Any thoughts on neutralising residual acid in the original paper?<br />
<b>A. Tania:</b> Geoff, you could think about buying buffered paper to slip behind the original item. This will counteract the acidic nature of some papers. Just be aware, buffered paper should not be used for photographic prints.<br />
<b>A. Geoff:</b> Thanks, Tanya. There are a few items that are heavily foxed that might need the extra attention.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Chez: I have 3 preservation issues... 1. Preserving WW1 photographic postcards from Europe 2. Old big gilt edged colour illustrated family bible 3. Old photos mounted on cardboard like mounts, from photographers.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Geoff: </b>Chez, saved me asking. I have 1 & 3 to deal with. Cardboard becoming very soft and crumbly.<br />
<b>A. Deb: </b>I'd store flat items in acid-free mylar or polyethylene sleeves; could back them with acid-free cardboard for extra support. Then scan them once, high resolution, good scanner, no settings like "sharpening" or any color-correction activated, save as TIFF - scan front & back. Store photos & ephemera in a cool, dark area, or inside acid-free containers or folders. We have our family Bible in an acid-free box.<br />
<b>Q (b): From Chez: </b>I don't think they make a big enough acid free box for the bible, any other suggestions?<br />
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<b>A. Cheryl: </b>Hi Chez, for your WWI postcards, they may be true photographs or they may be ink prints of photographic images. Either way, their preservation is much the same - neutral pH paper sleeves, or polyester or polyethylene sleeves if you are handling and referring to them a lot. Paper sleeves are better if you live in a humid climate. Handle them by the edges to avoid getting fingerprints on the image area. You can store them upright like index cards as long as you pad the box out so the photos don't slump or slide around. Digitize them by all means, to share their content.<br />
<b>A. Cheryl: </b>Point 3 for Chez and Geoff, too - mounted photos can also be stored in archival plastic sleeves, or neutral pH paper. A slightly larger piece of card inserted into the sleeve behind the mount can support the mount and provide a handling margin.<br />
<b>A. Cheryl: </b>As for the gilt edge bible, if you can buy an archival box that fits it nicely, that's great, or you can wrap it a large sheet of archival paper. Store it flat so that the spine doesn't have to support the heavy text block, as the animal glue that will probably have been used on the spine will be getting brittle and weak with age.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Lyn: I have my grandparents original 1922 marriage certificate that has been sticky-taped and folded for many years. I have opened it out, placed it in an acid free sleeve and presently it resides in a photo album. Is this the correct way to store it and if it were possible, should I even try to remove the sticky tape?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Tania: </b>Hi Lyn, sticky tape can be a real problem. Removing the tape really depends on what stage of deterioration the tape is in. You dont want to 'force' the plastic carrier off, if the residual adhesive is still quite tacky. This can result in a possible tear, and will leave you with a sticky mess that is quite difficult to deal with. However, if the adhesive is dry and dessicated, the plastic carrier will want to fall away from the paper support, and this should be ok. So in short, if you have to force it, leave it alone. What kind of album is it in? Is it adhered in with photo corners? If it lies flat, and is protected (without seeing it) I am likely to suggest to leave it where it is.<br />
<b>A. Lyn:</b> Thank you Tania. The sleeve is just placed loosely in the photo album, not attached in any way. I really was just hoping to compress the certificate as the paper had distorted over the years so that does not not lie flat. The sticky tape has left a yellowed deposit along the fold lines that seems to be getting darker over the years. The whole thing is very brittle so I am guessing that leaving as is will be the best solution. I had hoped to have it framed but maybe not.<br />
<b>A. Tania:</b> Lyn, don't give up hope of framing it. By the sounds of it, I think you might need to take it to a conservator and have them have a look at it.<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Sharon: I have my ggg grandfather's medical certificates and dating from the 1840s rolled up in a metal cylinder. I took them out last year and they seem in reasonable condition. The larger ones are a bit tattered around the edges. Good quality paper and some appear to be vellum. Should I take them out? Store them flat? There are at least 30 of them. Any advice gratefully received.</i><br />A. Tania: </b>Hi Sharon, rolled up items in metal tubes, I would tend to take them out and store them flat, plus that way you can view and handle them a little easier . However, it does depend on how strong the curl memory is. Again, you dont want to have to force anything to lie flat, especially if you think some of them might be velum. The concern with keeping them in the rolled metal container (again without seeing the items in question) is that each time you want to take them out to view them you run the risk of damaging them by rubbing them against the tube/opening. Depending on their size, you could also use a viewbook like suggested to Geoff, or it they are bigger, a box big enough for them to lie flat, interleaved with archival tissue/paper, which will provide a barrier, and a support to add (in pencil) a title or information about the sheet below. Does this cover everything for you? Let me know.<b><br /><br /><i>Q. From Fiona: I have inherited a stack of negatives in the old style that is the size of the photo (not sure of the proper name!). They have not been stored very well (mostly in old biscuit tins) - how should I preserve them for the future? Is there an inexpensive way to copy them so I can keep them in digital format?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Cheryl: </b>Fiona - these negatives that are about photo size are medium or large format still camera negs. They may be cellulose acetate, cellulose nitrate, or polyester depending on their age. If they are earlier than the 1940's they are probably nitrate; 1940's to 1960's they could be one of a few types of cellulose acetate, or they could be modern polyester negs. Nitrate and acetate negs need to ne copied as they will inevitably deteriorate. Handle them very carefully, by the edges and scan them on a flatbed scanner suitable for negative and transparency material, or photograph them on a light box with a good camera. Once you've digitized them, house them in photo-safe paper sleeves. Photos require a higher level of quality than just "acid-free". Store them in a cool, dry place, away from the rest of your collection as once they start to deteriorate, they will cause other material to deteriorate faster.<br />
<b>A. Cheryl: </b>A bit of a note about storage enclosures for photos..."acid-free" isn't enough for photos. Papers and plastics for photographic material need to be more pure so that they don't contain chemicals that will discolour the image material, embrittle the emulsion layer or stain the paper support. Ask for paper that has passed the Photographic Activity Test, or PAT.<br />
<b>A. Geoff:</b> Ah ... that's one of my other questions answered. Some of the better photographic stores have 620 sized sleeves for negatives, usually 4 to a page, set up for ring binders. (I need to get some more - note to self.)<br />
<b>A. Cheryl:</b> The National Archives website has Factsheets available which deal with the preservation of lots of different archival materials. Go to <a href="http://naa.gov.au/" target="_blank">naa.gov.au</a> then Records Management, then Preserve, then Preserving Physical Records.<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Here's the link to the fact sheets highlighted by Cheryl :: <a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/records-management/agency/preserve/physical-preservation/index.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.naa.gov.au/records-management/agency/preserve/physical-preservation/index.aspx</a><br />
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<b><i>Q. From Helen: A question about old letters where we have transcribed obscure old hand-writing and typed readable versions: is it safe to include the transcription in the same archival envelope / plastic sleeve? My concern is that the ink or toner of the printed transcription could contaminate the original.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Cheryl: </b>Helen, if you place the original and the transcript back to back in a plastic sleeve with a piece of archival paper between the two, everything should be OK. I would suggest the transcriptions be photocopies rather than inkjet printouts, as photocopies are more stable.<br />
<b>A. Prue:</b> You gals are being kept busy! Good work so far<br />
<b>A. Caroline:</b> Enjoying your skilled comments Cheryl and Tania xc<br />
<b>Q (b): From Helen:</b> Thanks Cheryl. Another question: some photographs printed commercially (as opposed to printing them ourselves) have a strong smell, especially when stored in archival sleeves, and the smell seems to increase over time. Are the chemicals used in the printing process deteriorating? And are those photos likely to cause a problem to others stored in the same box or album?<br />
<b>A. Cheryl: </b>Helen, it is possible that the smell is residual processing chemicals. With fully automated processing now, some of the wash/clearing baths may not be long enough. I would suggest storing them separately from you other photos, just in case. Store them in a ventilated space so that whatever is being released from them doesn't build up inside the container and accelerate any deterioration. Do you have the negatives? Could you get them reprinted if you start to notice staining or dye fade occurring?<br />
<b>A. Helen: </b>Thanks. Unfortunately the ones I am concerned about are part of our local history group's collection, and have been copied from originals lent years ago - maybe not even still in existence. We can keep them separate. And I am gradually digitising the collection, so can make other copies.<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Which local history group is that, Helen?<br />
<b>A. Helen: </b>Peachester History Committee, Sunshine Coast hinterland, Qld<br />
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<i><b>Q. From Fiona: What is the best way to store old family papers that have already deteriorated somewhat with mildew?</b></i><br />
<b>A. Tania: </b>Hi Fiona, I am sure you have already noticed how mildew can weaken paper, make it soft and prone to increased levels of damage through handling. My first comment is to make sure you are looking after your own health and safety first. Mould and mildew is not good for the respitory system. It your items have not been too badly affected ie: they still maintain some strength within the structure, I would suggest, on a nice warm day, take them outside, with a new, clean, soft make up brush, and a dust mask that you can buy from the supermarket, and very gently brush over the items, to lift away any surface mildew/mould that might be present. You will never remove all of the mildew, but as long as you store them in an area in the house which is free from wild flucuations in temp and humidity, you should be ok. I would also advise having them copied either digitally or photocopied. I would avoid storing them in plastic, interleaved between sheets of paper/tissue would be advisable. You want to avoid any possible moisture build up.<br />
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<b>A. Cheryl: </b>Ahh, lucky me! I've been given the opportunity to conduct research in photographic conservation, then deliver my findings to an international conference of conservators in NZ next year. I will be looking into a more efficient way for conservators to undo the double sided mounting tissue that studios used to adhere their prints to their mountboards. Photos and their boards don't often need to be separated from each other, but when they do, it can be extremely difficult and time consuming. I'm hoping to develop a faster, easier method that could also be applied to those thousands of modern photos permanently stuck into self adhesive albums.</div>
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<b><i>Q. IHM: Wow, where's the hour gone! We have to work out a way to preserve time ;)<img src="https://s-static.ak.facebook.com/images/blank.gif" /> Final question from me: Tania & Cheryl, favourite story you’ve found in the NAA collection?</i></b></div>
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<b>A. Cheryl: </b>My favourite item/story is from one of our very early copyright series. The item is a 10 foot 6 inch long albumen panorama. There are several of them, but this monster is my favourite. They were produced by Bernard Holtermann after he made his fortune on the Hill End gold fields. He commissioned two photographers to travel the gold fields and the cities and towns of NSW and Victoria and photograph them on huge glass plate negatives. The negatives were printed up and Holtermann traveled an exhibition of them to the USA and Europe to advertise what a wonderful "Land of Opportunity" Australia was. They are wonderful images taken as a result of a "happily-ever-after" story.</div>
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<b>A. IHM:</b> What a great story Cheryl, we love the Holtermann collection as well :: <a href="http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/discover_collections/society_art/photography/holtermann/" target="_blank">http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/discover_collections/society_art/photography/holtermann/</a></div>
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<b>A. Tania: </b>My favorite item belongs to the personal records collection of Robert Charles Given Coulter. Coulter was the governement surveyor that provided the landscape drawings of the Canberra region to be included in the kits that went out to the competion to design the federal captial. Coulter, along with Caswell and Griffiths also had a entry in the competition, and being the only Austalian team, ranked fourth as an honourable mention. The item dear to my heart is a hand made and bound book of Coulter's called 'Sea Ballads'. It is totally constructed by Coulter, the poems, the artwork works, as well as the bound volume and the spine. It is quite crude in some respects, but showed his ability to create the words, the vision and the vessel to contain it all in. Most of Coulter's artworks are available on the <a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/" target="_blank">NAA database</a> through digital images - just type in Coulter into the name search function and they will come up.<b><br /></b>
<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Thanks again to Cheryl and Tania for joining us tonight, I’m sure you’ve found it very useful. I know we have. If you have other questions you’d like to ask you can use <a href="https://www.facebook.com/naagovau" target="_blank">National Archives of Australia</a>'s contact form here: <a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/about-us/contact" target="_blank">http://www.naa.gov.au/about-us/contact</a> or call the NAA on 1300 886 881. We’ll publish the questions, answers and links from tonight’s session in a blog post this coming week. Stay tuned for our regular column from the NAA team in our upcoming <a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/issue-13-nov-dec-2012-is-now-available.html" target="_blank">Issue 13</a>: Nov-Dec 2012 edition!<br />
<b>A. Geoff: </b>I've discovered that QLD State Library shop sells buffering paper. Thanks for your help.<br />
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<b><i>Follow up question from Fiona, 28 September: Thanks to all involved in the Q & A session last night, especially for answering my couple of questions I submitted earlier. Sounds like I have a lot of work to do. One other question that maybe someone could answer for me - does anyone have a recommendation for a flatbed scanner suitable for negatives and transparencies?</i></b><br />
<b>A. IHM:</b> Hi Fiona, Gilbert Herrada from the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/naagovau" target="_blank">National Archives of Australia</a> recommended the Epsom Perfection V700 in Cheryl's <a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/issue-12-sep-oct-2012-is-now-available.html" target="_blank">Issue 12</a> column :: <a href="http://ow.ly/e3nzn" target="_blank">http://ow.ly/e3nzn</a><br />
<b>A. Fiona: </b>Thank you. I will check it out<br />
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<b>A. IHM:</b> It does convert to usable digital formats like JPEG and TIFF. Here's a useful Youtube vid on the Epsom Perfection V700:<br />
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<b>Next Week: </b>Who's joining us for next Thursday's Expert Q&A? Janis Wilton and Bill Oates from <a href="http://www.une.edu.au/" target="_blank">University of New England</a> answering questions on studying Local, Family and Applied History and doing research at <a href="https://www.facebook.com/unearmidale" target="_blank">University of New England, Armidale</a>.<br />
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When: NSW-ACT-VIC-TAS: 8:30-9:30pm AEDT | QLD: 7:30-8:30pm | WA: 5:30-6:30pm | NT: 7:00-8:00pm | SA: 8:00-9:00pm.<br />
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Janis Wilton coordinates the local, family and applied history courses at the University of New England and is a community historian with a passion for oral history. Bill Oates is the University Archivist at the Heritage Centre and Archives, University of New England.<br />
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[2] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, August 16 ::</span> <b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/expert-facebook-q-bdm-certificates.html" target="_blank">How to get the best from BDM Certificates</a></b></div>
[3] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, August 23 ::</span><b> </b><b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/expert-q-getting-most-from-naa.html" target="_blank">Getting the most from NAA</a></b><br />
[4] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, August 30 ::</span> <b><a href="http://www.insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/expert-q-interpreting-photographs-for.html" target="_blank">Interpreting photographs for family history</a></b><br />
[5] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, September 6 :: </span><b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/expert-q-how-to-get-best-from.html" target="_blank">How to get the best from Ancestry.com.au</a></b><br />
[6] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, September 13 :: </span><b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/expert-q-using-trove-for-research.html" target="_blank">Using Trove for research</a></b><br />
[7] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, September 20 ::</span> <b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/expert-q-todays-toolkit-for-digital_21.html" target="_blank">Today's toolkit for the digital historian</a></b><br />
[8] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, September 27 ::</span> <a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/expert-q-preserving-your-paper.html" target="_blank"><b>Preserving your artefacts with NAA</b></a><br />
[9] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, October 4 ::</span> Studying and doing research at UNE<br />
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[11] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, October 25 ::</span> <b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/expert-q-whats-new-at-ancestrycomau.html" target="_blank">What's new at Ancestry.com.au</a></b></div>
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[12] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, November 1 ::</span> <b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/expert-q-how-to-research-cemeteries-in.html" target="_blank">How to research cemeteries in Sydney & NSW</a></b></div>
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[13] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, Nov 8</span> :: <b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/expert-q-australian-war-memorial-lost.html" target="_blank">Australian War Memorial - Lost Diggers</a></b></div>
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[14] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, Nov 15</span> :: <b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/expert-q-getting-even-more-from-trove.html" target="_blank">Getting even more from Trove</a></b></div>
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[15] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, Nov 22</span> :: <b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/expert-q-getting-most-from-findmypast.html" target="_blank">Getting the most from findmypast AU & NZ</a></b></div>
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[16] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, Nov 29</span> :: <b><a href="http://www.insidehistory.com.au/2012/12/expert-qa-using-naa-defence-records/" target="_blank">Using NAA defence records</a></b></div>
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[17] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, Dec 06</span> :: <b><a href="http://insidehistorymagazine.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/expert-q-how-to-get-best-from-state.html" target="_blank">Getting the best from the State Library of NSW</a></b></div>
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[18] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, Dec 13</span> :: <b><a href="http://www.insidehistory.com.au/2012/12/expert-qa-getting-the-best-from-the-anmm-collection/" target="_blank">Using the Australian National Maritime Museum</a></b></div>
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[19] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Thursday, Dec 20</span> :: <b><a href="http://www.insidehistory.com.au/2012/12/expert-qa-whats-new-at-ancestry-com-au/" target="_blank">What's new at Ancestry.com.au</a></b></div>
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Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-51516372534547980022012-09-25T16:26:00.000+10:002012-09-25T16:26:23.938+10:00Victoria History Week :: 21-28 October 2012Victoria’s wide and wonderful past looks set to come alive next month thanks to the hundreds of events in store for <b><a href="http://www.historyweek.org.au/" target="_blank">Victoria History Week</a></b>.<br />
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To be held from the 21 – 28 October 2012, Victorians can:<br />
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<li>take the family on a trip back in time touring historic Melbourne - from the Burke and Wills monument to the Fairies' Tree;</li>
<li>find out how history, law, medicine and science helped piece together the remains of Ned Kelly;</li>
<li>celebrate 100 years of the enchanting State Library Dome - a magical place that has inspired writers and artists since it first opened in 1912; </li>
<li>come, if you dare, to a spooky and spine tingling Trick or Treat Fair in the haunted halls of Barwon Park Mansion;</li>
<li>put on your student explorer hats and follow the clues to discover Fed Square’s Top Ten artefacts and celebrate its 10th birthday;</li>
<li>learn all about the fascinating art of early visual technology at the Magic Lantern Society's Australian Convention; </li>
<li>explore one of Melbourne's grand designs, learning about the construction and social history of our Old Treasury building;</li>
<li>experience the lavish interiors and enjoy afternoon tea and a glass of sparkling wine in one of Melbourne’s most significant nineteenth century mansions;</li>
<li>hear some of the 3,000+ stories behind the headstones at the Cranbourne Cemetery, exploring the accomplishments and tragedies of the district’s early settlers;</li>
<li>roll out the picnic rug and enjoy an afternoon of historic motor vehicles, local arts and crafts at Maffra's Annual Picnic;</li>
<li>walk down the aisle and admire a century of wedding dresses and memorabilia from 1880 to 1980;</li>
<li>take a rare tour of our Supreme Court building, hearing stories from the archives and discovering judicial robes and wigs;</li>
<li>visit the unique Bear’s Castle and discover why the building has kept historians mystified for years;</li>
<li>applaud the people and projects who preserve and share Victoria's history, at the <b><a href="http://prov.vic.gov.au/community-programs/grants-awards/victorian-community-history-awards" target="_blank">Victorian Community History Awards</a></b>.</li>
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“Victoria has such a rich and wonderful history, so we are delighted to once again be able to pull together a whole host of reasons to get out there and explore it,” said Kate Prinsley from the <b><a href="http://www.historyvictoria.org.au/" target="_blank">Royal Historical Society of Victoria</a></b>.<br />
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“From fascinating walking tours and engaging discussions, to gorgeous exhibitions and ‘history in the making’ events - there is something in store for everyone to enjoy.”<br />
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<b><a href="http://www.historyweek.org.au/" target="_blank">Victoria History Week</a></b> is supported by the Vera Moore Foundation and is coordinated by the <b><a href="http://www.historyvictoria.org.au/" target="_blank">Royal Historical Society of Victoria</a></b>.<br />
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Event supporters include the <b><a href="http://historycouncilvic.org.au/" target="_blank">History Council of Victoria</a></b>, <b><a href="http://www.mavic.asn.au/" target="_blank">Museums Australia Victoria</a></b>, <b><a href="http://htav.asn.au/home" target="_blank">History Teachers’ Association of Victoria</a></b>, <b><a href="http://www.dpcd.vic.gov.au/heritage" target="_blank">Heritage Victoria</a></b>, <b><a href="http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/" target="_blank">State Library of Victoria</a></b>, <b><a href="http://museumvictoria.com.au/melbournemuseum/" target="_blank">Melbourne Museum</a></b>, <b><a href="http://museumvictoria.com.au/immigrationmuseum/" target="_blank">Immigration Museum</a></b>, <b><a href="http://museumvictoria.com.au/scienceworks/" target="_blank">Scienceworks</a></b>, <b><a href="http://prov.vic.gov.au/" target="_blank">Public Record Office Victoria</a></b>, <b><a href="http://www.koorieheritagetrust.com/" target="_blank">Koorie Heritage Trust Inc</a></b> and the <b><a href="http://www.aigs.org.au/" target="_blank">Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies</a></b>.<br />
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For details on all History Week events, visit <a href="http://www.historyweek.org.au/"><b>www.historyweek.org.au</b></a><br />
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Inside History magazinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13869850049987387419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2271691636005395056.post-29398990942914079742012-09-21T19:53:00.000+10:002013-01-24T14:12:14.096+11:00Expert Q&A :: Today's toolkit for the digital historianDigital history and online search tools allow "speed relating" in family history research. Tim Sherratt joined us on Thursday, 20th September to answer questions on today’s toolkit for the digital historian.<br />
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Don't forget our Expert Q&As happen every Thursday night on the <b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/InsideHistoryMagazine">Inside History Magazine facebook page</a></b>.<br />
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Tim Sherratt is one of the developers leading the way in digital history & has been building online resources relating to archives, museums and history since 1993. His work includes Mapping Our Anzacs, Trove QueryPic, Archives Viewer - see links below.<br />
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<li>My basic rule is always don't be afraid to play. There are lots of cool tools around of use to the digital historian and the best way to get a handle on what they do and how they might be of use to you is to mess around with them. </li>
<li>My second rule is look at what other people are doing. The digital humanities community is very generous with its time and ideas and there are lots of people blogging about their research and experiments. Have a look at DigitalHumanitiesNow to get an idea of what's going on: <a href="http://digitalhumanitiesnow.org/"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b>http://digitalhumanitiesnow.org/</b></span></a></li>
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<li>Tim Sherratt's digital history tools: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://discontents.com.au/">http://discontents.com.au</a></b></span></li>
<li>New QueryPic: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://dhistory.org/querypic" target="_blank">http://dhistory.org/querypic</a></b></span></li>
<li>The Programming Historian: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://programminghistorian.org/">http://programminghistorian.org</a></b></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Mapping our Anzacs :: </span><b><a href="http://mappingouranzacs.naa.gov.au/">http://mappingouranzacs.naa.gov.au</a></b></span></li>
<li>Mapping our Anzac linking to NAA RecordSearch: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://wraggelabs.com/emporium/recordsearch-tools/recordsearch-link-to-mapping-our-anzacs/">http://wraggelabs.com/emporium/recordsearch-tools/recordsearch-link-to-mapping-our-anzacs/</a></b></span></li>
<li>Archives Viewer. An experimental viewer for digitised files in the <b><a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/" target="_blank">National Archives of Australia</a></b> RecordSearch database: <b><a href="http://dhistory.org/archives/naa/"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://dhistory.org/archives/naa/</span></a></b></li>
<li>Tools for digital historians :: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://dirt.projectbamboo.org/">http://dirt.projectbamboo.org</a></span></b></li>
<li>Zotero is a free, easy-to-use tool to help you collect, organize, cite, and share your research sources: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://www.zotero.org/">http://www.zotero.org/</a></b></span></li>
<li>DigitalHumanities Questions & Answers site: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://digitalhumanities.org/answers/">http://digitalhumanities.org/answers/</a> </b></span></li>
<li>Trove Newspapers: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper">http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper</a></span></b></li>
<li>Papers Past: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast">http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast</a></b></span></li>
<li>List of current titles: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/titles">http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/titles</a></span></b></li>
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<b>Transcript of Expert Q&A - Today’s toolkit for the digital historian:</b><br />
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Our Expert Q&A with Tim Sherratt starts at 8:30pm EST. Tonight, Tim will be answering questions on today’s toolkit for the digital historian. Please ask your questions in a comment & he'll answer in a following comment.<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>not sure exactly on the subject, I know it has something to do with digitizing<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Hi Carmel, Tim is an expert on digital or online tools for doing history and family history like Mapping our Anzacs, NAA RecordSearch and other tools for searching and doing history online. Does that help?<br />
<b>A. Chris: </b>I'd be lost without NAA, Mapping Our ANZACS and Trove...<br />
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Welcome everyone, thanks for joining us tonight. The rules are simple. Try to keep your questions concise and that will help Tim to answer as many as possible in the hour.<br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Howdy folks!<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>oh and hi Tim and Cassie and Wendy<br />
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<b><i>Q. Tim - what do u think the most important rule for newbies to follow when starting today in the digital world???</i></b><br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Fiona, my basic rule is always don't be afraid to play. There are lots of cool tools around of use to the digital historian and the best way to get a handle on what they do and how they might be of use to you is to mess around with them. My second rule is look at what other people are doing. The digital humanities community is very generous with its time and ideas and there are lots of people blogging about their research and experiments. Have a look at DigitalHumanitiesNow to get an idea of what's going on: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://digitalhumanitiesnow.org/">http://digitalhumanitiesnow.org/</a></b></span><br />
<b>A. Fiona: </b>I totally agree Tim! Thank you for sharing!<br />
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<i><b>Q. Hi Tim & Cassie - I heard Tim speak at Mosman Library & have found the QueryPic utility extremely useful, especially for eg Local Studies, or finding when someone was in the news. You might want to say something about that utility?</b></i><br />
<b>A. Carmel:</b> Thankyou Kerry I do not know about this source at all<br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Kerry, glad you asked :-) because I have a special <b><a href="http://dhistory.org/querypic/" target="_blank">QueryPic</a></b> announcement!<br />
<b>A. Carnamah Historical Society & Museum: </b>Sounds exciting!<br />
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<b>A. Tim: </b>QueryPic is a little tool I made that visualises results from newspaper searches in Trove and Papers Past. Instead of a list of results, you get a graph, plotting the number of results over time so you can start to see patterns and plot trends. For example, have you ever wondered whether the guy in the red suit at Christmas was called in the 19th century... <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://dhistory.org/querypic/2t/">http://dhistory.org/querypic/2t/</a></b></span><br />
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<b>A. Tim: </b>That last link is to the brand new (and still in testing) version of QueryPic. It has a number of new features including the ability to permanently save your QueryPics - great for sharing and citing. You can also do more complex queries. Check it out and let me know what you think! <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://dhistory.org/querypic/">http://dhistory.org/querypic/</a></span></b></div>
<b>A. Chez: </b>Kerry Farmer and Tim OMG just tested out that app....a tad excited at what I can see on my test subject! Just saying!<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>QueryPic is brilliant isn't it Chez Leggatt & now you can save your searches for later!<br />
<b>A. Carnamah Historical Society & Museum: </b>More of a comment than a question but we'd like to express how useful we find QueryPic. It is amazing for historical insights. We're keen to check out the new features.<br />
<b><i>Q(b). Tim with this site I see there are generic words there, how would you go with a surname and place. I just tried with a surname and the place they lived and came up with a great line.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Carmel, do you mean QueryPic? Basically, with the new version, you can use it to visualise just about any search in Trove. So if you want to limit it to the newspapers of a particular region, you just use the advanced search option in Trove to build the search you want. Then you can just copy the url and paste it into the query url box in QueryPic.<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>that may limit your options too, I have found some events were reported all over Australia, not so much mine. It did work Tim. This would be a great tool when looking for a subject. especially for those who are studying<br />
<b><i>Q (c). I'm just looking at the new QueryPic. How did you overlay the 2 searches (Father Christmas / Santa Claus)? Also are you able to save the constructed graph, so you don't have to spend time recreating it? (as opposed to just saving the search?)</i></b><br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Kerry, you can combine as many graphs as you want -- just do another search (or paste in a query url) and it'll be added to the last one. If you decide you don't want it, there's a 'Clear last' button to get rid of it again. Yep, saving is one of the main features of the new QueryPic. Once you've created your QP a big blue 'Save' button will appear. Press it and you'll get a simple form to fill out -- the only required fields are a title and your email address. Hit save and you'll be redirected to a new version complete with a persistent url for sharing!<br />
<b>A. Kerry: </b>THANK YOU! I've been using QueryPic ever since I heard about it, but saving & overlaying will make it so much more useful<br />
<b><i>Q(d). how do you save on querypic...i cant see it"?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Chez, are you looking at the new version? The 'Save' button appears once you've created a graph.<br />
<b>A. Chez: </b>Thanks Tim I had used the one on here earlier...so now redoing query...!<br />
<b>A. Chez:</b> Tim a comment between the 2 versions of your app....in the older version, fewer more accurate documents were found and I liked you could click and get the list of the articles but with the newer version it takes you to trove...not as accurate....with the hits. On the old version you could use '+' between two words, it doesnt accept that now.<br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Chez, if you click on the graph you still get the first 20 articles just the same as the old version. I've changed the default search to match Trove's default which is 'fuzzy' (ie returns more results). But you now have the option to use Trove's own advanced search interface to make the search as exact as you want. You should also be able to use the 'fulltext' modifier in the QueryPic keywords box -- though I haven't fully tested that yet.<br />
<b>A. Chez: </b>OK I played a bit...putting " " instead of + has the same effect and limits the results to the exact phrase<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Looks like we've all got some homework, testing the new QueryPic :)<br />
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<b><i>Q. Hi Tim, Cassie and all, </i></b><br />
<b><i>Tim, what do you consider the best way to organise your various notes etc. re each family tree? Do you use programs like Evernote, or add all to family tree software?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Tim:</b> Chris, I use a variety of things, but mostly I store my links and references in <b><a href="http://www.zotero.org/" target="_blank">Zotero</a></b>. It's a free, open-source tool that now works on any platform. It does more than just store bookmarks, it has special translators that capture data from a variety of catalogues and databases, and if translators don't exist for your favourite database you can even write one yourself. I've written translators for the Trove newspaper database and for NAA's RecordSearch, so with a single click you can capture a newspaper article and all its metadata directly into your research database. You can also create public or provate groups to easily share your research: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://zotero.org/">http://zotero.org</a></span></b><br />
<b>A. Chris: </b>Thank you, Tim... you've given me a few things to consider and play with...I didn't want to do anything else anyway, and what a perfect excuse. Thank you for your time and knowledge.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Hi Tim and Cassie. Just curious about e-books for writing family histories. Do you think they will be phased out and replaced as technology improves? What advice would you suggest in that regard.,</i></b><br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Hi Margaret Wild-Storey, interesting question. I'd definitely consider ebooks as a technology that is here for a while and worth investing time in - the makers of tablets such as Apple, Kindle and Samsung are definitely investing significant time & money into them, so they're here to stay we think.<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>the only problem there is they have different formats. as long as they are produced for all.<br />
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<b><i>Q. When i search NAA for Service Records via Name Search if I then try to narrow it down with 'Refine result' and I get it wrong , It does not take me back to my search results . Am I doing this wrong, 'cause it's a bit annoying having to search again :) Researching 300 locals at present so a lot of time on NAA and Mapping Our Anzacs . On track now :)</i></b><br />
<b>A. Kate: </b>On Wendy's RecordSearch question – I've found that RecordSearch has quirks that you come across when searching in different and creative ways. I've had similar problems to yours. I think it's just one of those things you have to put up with.<br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Wendy, yes I've heard of some problems with the 'Refine result' option, but I don't have a good answer (I've got Kate Bagnall having a look now!), but if you're a user of RecordSearch there are a couple of little tools I created that might be of use. As I just mentioned, Zotero has a translator for RecordSearch which makes it very easy to capture information about files (including persistent links!). If the files are digitised then you can use my Archives Viewer <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://dhistory.org/archives/naa/">http://dhistory.org/archives/naa/</a></b></span> All you do is give it a file barcode and it grabs all the page images and presents them on a nice wall. It has a number of useful functions built in -- you can print a whole file or a range of pages (along with the proper references!). The <b><a href="http://dhistory.org/archives/naa/" target="_blank">Archives Viewer</a></b> also creates persistent links for individual pages, so if you find something interesting you can share it!<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>We have the National Archives of Australia team joining us again next week Wendy Stewart, so I'll take your question to them but I have to say, Tim and Kate are definitely power users, so a solution probably doesn't exist right now :)<br />
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<b><i>Q. Have just stumbled on this qanda through Tim's entry on Twitter. A tough question for this format but one which I find myself thinking every time I see news of Tim's beaut tools. In trying, as I am, to develop metadata structures for a raft of digitised archival materials and to deliver them online, where can I find guidance on creating/adopting a delivery sustem which is suitable for/amenable to the sorts of tools and digital history processes Tim is creating/promoting?</i></b><br />
A. Tim: John, perhaps you could ask a question at the DigitalHumanities Questions and Answers site: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://digitalhumanities.org/answers/">http://digitalhumanities.org/answers/</a> </b></span>As I said before DH folks tend to be generous with their advice. There's also a whole lot of new tools appearing.<br />
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Here's a site that Tim showed us earlier that you'll like - Tools for digital historians :: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://dirt.projectbamboo.org/">http://dirt.projectbamboo.org</a></span></b><br />
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<b><i>Q. Hi Tim, seems like there's lots of new tools coming online. What are you most excited about in digital history today?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Is it too daggy to say 'the people'? It really seems that we have a very positive and supportive community forming. For example have a look at The Programming Historian. <b><a href="http://programminghistorian.org/" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://programminghistorian.org/ </span></a></b>Only today I noticed a new lesson had been posted -- a great introduction to a technology known as Topic Modelling (read the lesson!). It's a great example of the way people are creating tools, playing with them and sharing their results. In terms of the technology what really interests me at the moment are trying to find ways to weave things like <b><a href="http://dhistory.org/querypic/" target="_blank">QueryPic</a></b> back into our narratives -- to bring big data and small stories together in new and exciting forms. I think there are some great opportunities to start to tell stories inline that also take advantage of thinks like Linked Open data to embed them within rich contexts.<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Too daggy? No, it's the people and their stories that made us start our magazine as well. Thanks Tim for joining us tonight. Looks like we’ll all be checking your blog often to keep up with the terrific tools you're building :: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://discontents.com.au/">http://discontents.com.au/</a></b></span><br />
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Thanks again to Tim and everyone for joining tonight's session, we’ll publish the questions, answers and links from tonight’s session in a blog post this coming week.<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>Thankyou for some great tips and sites to explore! do you know where I can buy time? LOL<br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Carmel, nope but I'm certainly looking to find some more myself!<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Where can we buy time? I think we'll have to have Tim back again!<br />
<b>A. Carmel:</b> It is always good to get updates on material, thank you Tim look forward to exploring more.<br />
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<b>A. Tim: </b>On that last point you might like to have a look at a talk I gave last year: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><b><a href="http://discontents.com.au/shoebox/every-story-has-a-beginning">http://discontents.com.au/shoebox/every-story-has-a-beginning</a></b></span></div>
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<b>A. Kerry: </b>Tim - after you recommended it I've been checking out Storify.com</div>
<b>A. Wendy: </b>Wow , I'm go be checking out all these new links ( after the radio talk on Marriage Certificates :)) Thanks for your time Tim and ISH for hosting these great sessions each week .<br />
<b>A. Tim: </b>Wow, that was surprisingly intense! Thanks folks!<br />
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<b>Next Week: </b>We’ll be here again next Thursday, September 27 at 8:30pm, with our next expert Q&A. Next week we have Tania Riviere & Cheryl Jackson, conservators from the <b><a href="http://www.naa.gov.au/" target="_blank">National Archives of Australia</a></b> answering questions on how to preserve your family artefacts.<br />
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<b>When: </b>8:30-9:30pm EST | WA: 6:30-7:30pm WST | SA - NT: 8:00-9:00pm CST | Weekly on a Thursday night<br />
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As of 13 September 2012 there are 7,420,297 pages consisting of 72,750,378 articles available to search in just the old newspapers on <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/" target="_blank">Trove</a></b> alone! Please find the transcript of the Q&A and links.<br />
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<b>Top tips from Virginia and Mark:</b><br />
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<li><b>Mark: </b>My top tip for anyone using Trove (particularly newspapers) is not to discount the content of newspaper Advertising. Not only do some articles appear in there due to errors in processing, but there may also be other information that is useful. Another useful tip is to use the 'near' search and honorifics if searching for names that are also common words - e.g. "mr john black"~2 - this reduces the 'false positives' you get with these names, particularly if you only have a surname</li>
<li><b>Virginia: </b>I like to start general and then start narrowing from there using facets unless I know exactly what I'm looking for. Searching newspapers is different to searching all of Trove, so I guess using the fulltext:searchterm is the most useful tip. What I mean by fulltext:searchterm is when you're in the search box in newspapers, if you type fulltext:McIntyre it will try to search for exactly McIntyre.</li>
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<li>Donate & digitise your old papers: <b><a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/anplan/about/collect.html"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.nla.gov.au/anplan/about/collect.html</span></a></b></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">Suggest newspapers to add to Trove: </span><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=TrNDP">http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=TrNDP</a></span></b></li>
<li>Trove: Australia in Picture flickr group :: <b><a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/pictureaustralia_ppe"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.flickr.com/groups/pictureaustralia_ppe</span></a></b></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">Funding an newspaper addition: </span><b><a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/get_involved"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/get_involved</span></a></b></li>
<li style="font-weight: normal;">Trove Newspapers: <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper</span></a></b></li>
<li style="font-weight: normal;">List of titles coming soon to Trove: <a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/selected_newspapers/Future_Titles.html"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/selected_newspapers/Future_Titles.html</span></b></a></li>
<li style="font-weight: normal;">List of current titles: <a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/titles"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/titles</span></b></a></li>
<li style="font-weight: normal;">Trove support: <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact</span></a></b></li>
<li style="font-weight: normal;">Top 5 text correctors: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/hallOfFame">http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/hallOfFame</a></span></b></li>
<li style="font-weight: normal;">Crowdsourcing funding: <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://www.pozible.com/">http://www.pozible.com</a></span></b></li>
<li>Tim Sherratt's digital history tools:<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"> </span><a href="http://discontents.com.au/"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">http://discontents.com.au</span></a></b></li>
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<b>Transcript of Expert Q&A - Using Trove for family history research:</b><br />
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<b>Comment: Carmel: </b>Lol and it has been down the lat 24 hours, we were just saying how life can be soooo hard without it!<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>So true, you really miss it don't you Carmel Reynen - I know we have :)<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Trove is working hard to get back online - go to http://dr.nla.gov.au for updates but Virginia & Mark are here at 8:30pm to answer your questions.<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>I am guessing someone is tearing their hair out trying to get it up on line. I must say however I would not know near as much about my ancestors and families without Trove. I was not aware of many of the papers that do exist and I have found some wonderful stories. I found a biography about one ancestor living in Fitzroy with things I would not have known about otherwise (even if it did bring on more questions) and then there were family living in Arthurs Creek and people writing stories about tours of the area and talking to my g grandfather then describing the farm they all lived on. It was almost like reading a Jane Austen novel only my ancestors were the characters. Pure Gold<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>We have an update on the outage - see <b><a href="http://dr.nla.gov.au/">http://dr.nla.gov.au</a></b><br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>as frustrating it is for all of us that Trove is down, but hey those Techs would be frantic! we are just spoilt<br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>So glad you guys are being patient with us! It's so frustrating for us too when we can't give you precise answers or exact URLs for you to click on.<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>We're a civilised, polite bunch here Virginia :)<br />
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<b>Comment: Lisa: </b>Just love TROVE,I'm also a TAFE teacher and used it this week to teach my students some searching and filtering techniques. They are a mature class and were just enthralled - the web address was quickly noted for future use . . . Some new converts I think. :)<br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Lisa, That's fantastic! The education sector is one we're trying to reach out to more so it would be good to get feedback on how we could do that better!<br />
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Welcome everyone, thanks for joining us tonight. Try to keep your questions concise and focused on Trove, that will help Virginia and Mark to answer as many as possible in the hour that we have. They’ve also kindly agreed to answer any questions asked but not answered tonight here tomorrow.<br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>Hi all!<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>hello<br />
<b>A. Helen: </b>Good evening :)<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>(BTW, Hi all)<br />
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<b><i>Q. Firstly thank you so much for Trove. My question that the red underlining is not dark enough for myself or older people, it would be great if you could darken the references. Thank you?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Betty Thanks for your feedback on the underlining - We consulted with a number of users (including both older and vision impaired users) before finalising on that as being the best option from what was suggested. The limitations of the software mean that at the moment there is not much we can do. We will note this as a suggestion to be re-examined at some point. You may also find that by changing the zoom of the newspaper page it may become clearer where words are underlined. You can also use the browser 'find' button to find where the word appears in the text on the left, then click on the line that the word is in to jump the page to that point.<br />
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<b><i>Q. Is there any way of contacting people who have tagged something, I usually put my initials and the family name I am researching, if someone else is looking for that same family how can we find them?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Julie: </b>@Carmel Reynen Top question re contacting people who've tagged family history articles. Would be great to contact people researching the same family.<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Carmel & @Julie - at the moment we don't provide people with the ability to see who has added a specific tag to the article. You may be able to find this out by checking the profiles of people who have corrected the text to see if they've added the tag. Otherwise, you can post a comment asking people researching that family to contact you (I'd recommend setting up a free email account because you may get a bit of spam). Otherwise, you can try posting in the forums (<b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/forum">http://trove.nla.gov.au/forum</a></b>) asking people who are interested to contact you.<br />
<b><i>Q(b). IHM: Thanks Virginia James, can users raise development suggestions like Carmel Reynen & Julie Boxsells direct with the Trove team? How would they raise the suggestions?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>Great question Ben! We love getting suggestions for improvements! The best way is to send them through the contact us form. That way we never lose them and we can also let people know if it's a suggestion already on the list. I know it looks like we might not be doing anything with the suggestions, but believe me we have a long list of enhancements that we want to tackle when we have resources available. Right now our biggest improvement on the go is to make the Help and About pages better, hopefully including a search function so people can search for answers to the questions they need help with! And by 'questions' I mean the sorts of questions like 'How do I search for an exact name?' or 'How do I find theses on a specific topic', or 'How do I change my password.'<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Thanks Virginia, here's the contact form link for everyone :: <b><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact">http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact</a></b><br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>The mockups that I've seen for the help pages are looking good!<br />
<b>A. Tanya: </b>Love the idea of using questions to answer questions. They will help you before you even realise you've been helped!<br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Tanya, Well, we're hoping the new help functionality will be able to answer the questions before people have to ask us for the answers! We often get repeats of the same sorts of questions so we want to be able to provide the answers more easily for people!<br />
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<b><i>Q. Is there a way on Trove to select a paper straight up rather than going through the growing list to find the publication you want to search?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Chez Leggatt - If you are asking about the advanced search page, the you can use the browser 'find' function to search for the newspaper (this will find it in the list). Otherwise, you can select the 'view all titles' link from the Trove newspapers homepage, find the newspaper in this list, then select the 'Search only this title' box that appears underneath the search box in the top right-hand corner of the page. You can bookmark this newspaper page so you can simply return to that page rather than going through the homepages.<br />
<b>A. Chez: </b>Hmmm Mark...I will test out if that will do what I am looking for once you are up and operational again..thankyou!! I ♥ Trove btw!!<br />
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<b><i>Q. I can't seem to access death notices for Northern Star Lismore.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Esma - have you tried browsing through the pages of the newspaper or checking in the advertising section? You may also be able to find them by searching for 'death' in addition to your other search terms.<br />
<b><i>Q(b). Esma: Are Campbelltown or Camden NSW newspapers being added to Trove?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>There have been a couple of questions about whether newspapers from particular areas are available. As the NLA site is currently down we can't link to our list, but a copy of it can be found at <b><a href="http://www.gouldgenealogy.com/2012/07/update-on-troves-historical-australian-newspaper-digitisation-program/">http://www.gouldgenealogy.com/2012/07/update-on-troves-historical-australian-newspaper-digitisation-program/</a></b> . If titles you are interested in are not on this list, please suggest them at <b><a href="http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=TrNDP">http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=TrNDP</a></b><br />
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<b><i>Q. From Hillary Lowden: What is the schedule for materials from the Bendigo Advertiser to be loaded on Trove?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>To answer Hillary's question, we're happy to say the Bendigo Advertiser is starting to com online as we speak (well, once we're back up that is!) and it will progressively have more available online in coming months. The process takes awhile unfortunately.<br />
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<b><i>Q. I am also interested in Avoca, Ampitheatre Maryborough area not sure what was available there but are there plans for there.</i></b><br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>There have been a couple of questions about whether newspapers from particular areas are available. As the NLA site is currently down we can't link to our list, but a copy of it can be found at <b><a href="http://www.gouldgenealogy.com/2012/07/update-on-troves-historical-australian-newspaper-digitisation-program/">http://www.gouldgenealogy.com/2012/07/update-on-troves-historical-australian-newspaper-digitisation-program/</a></b> . If titles you are interested in are not on this list, please suggest them at <b><a href="http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=TrNDP">http://librariesaustraliaref.nla.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=TrNDP</a></b><br />
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<b><i>Q. My question (apart from one already lodged) is:</i></b><br />
<b><i>The other night I was correcting, and there was a loud bang, a flash of light and dust everywhere. When I picked myself up, I realised I had just been passed by the wonderful Friends of Penrith Library. As they seemed to be travelling faster than the speed of sound, I suspect there was more than just one person peddling at the same time. If I register a historical society for a few people who just want to try/aren't game to register themselves, can more than one person use the same user-name at the same time?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Linda, To answer your first question about how many people are actually registered to correct text, we have a total of 70,000 users registered but only 3,761 are actively correcting text.<br />
<b>A: Linda: </b>Seventy thousand. I am in awe! Even almost four thousand actively correcting is a fair-sized miracle. Thank You!<br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Linda, and to answer your second question... at the same time? Hmmm... I'm not sure! Mark might know that one better but I would imagine it would cause difficulties!<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Linda - I'm not sure about having multiple users logged in on one account simultaneously, it may work, but I haven't experimented with that yet.<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Linda if you want to experiment and let us know, that would be great :-)<br />
<b>A. Linda: </b>Hi Mark, Had just begged my beloved for his computer, and was about to experiment (I admit I have registered one society identity, but not tried), and Tove is, unfortunately, still down. I shall get back to you once it has settled into its normal very reliable state. :)<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Linda - when you've done some experimenting let us know<br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Linda, I agree with Mark! It would be useful for us to know if it's possible so we can let other groups know if they ask us!<br />
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<b><i>Q. What would be your TOP research/search tip for genealogists using Trove? (One each) :)</i></b><br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>lol, that's our question Helen Leggatt - good one though :)<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Helen - My own top tip for anyone using Trove (particularly newspapers) is not to discount the content of newspaper Advertising. Not only do some articles appear in there due to errors in processing, but there may also be other information that is useful. Another useful tip is to use the 'near' search and honorifics if searching for names that are also common words - e.g. "mr john black"~2 - this reduces the 'false positives' you get with these names, particularly if you only have a surname<br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Helen, I'm a bit different to Mark... I like to start general and then start narrowing from there using facets unless I know exactly what I'm looking for. Searching newspapers is different to searching all of Trove, so I guess using the fulltext:searchterm is the most useful tip.<br />
<b><i>Q(b). IHM: Hi Virginia James, can you explain fulltext:searchterm a little more</i></b><br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>BTW, what I mean by fulltext:searchterm is when you're in the search box in newspapers, if you type fulltext:McIntyre it will try to search for exactly McIntyre. (Mark can elaborate if I'm slightly off on that one. He's the newspaper expert.) :)<br />
<b>A. Chloe: </b>Hi all! I just tuned in and would like to second what Mark just said about looking in the Advertising section. I have been looking there lately and there is heaps of potentially useful info as well as lots of curiosities. I enjoy the latter!<br />
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<b><i>Q. is there any programs to get papers that have never been microfilmed? Also with all the fuss of newspapers going digital these days does anyone know what will happen to these in the future?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>@ Carmel, I'm not personally aware of any programs to keep or archive papers that haven't been microfilmed, but Ben got a question from someone who has kept some papers from a certain period that was wondering if they'd be of interest to Trove. I'd love to be able to provide the exact link but if you do a search for 'donating' or 'donation' on the NLA website when it's back up you can find information on donating materials to the NLA. I'm sure the State Libraries would also be interested in collecting old issues of newspapers.<br />
<b><i>Q(b). From Noreen Malone: In the 1991 Floods I kept our local Daily Newspaper for about 2wks would these be of any interest to Trove?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>Thanks Ben, that's the one! I hope Noreen sees this and is able to contact the NLA or State library about donating the issues!<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Carmel - with the microfilming of newspapers that are not currently available on microfilm, ANPlan, which involves all the State Libraries, as well as the National Library, is managing this process. It is possible to digitise from the hardcopy of newpapers, but this is a more expensive process. With newspapers going digital, that is more a question for the Web Archiving team...<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Wanted! Australia's missing newspapers. What's in your shed or under the bed? Old newspapers tell the stories of their times, through ads, photos, obituaries, classifieds. Contact National Library of Australia: <b><a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/anplan/about/collect.html">http://www.nla.gov.au/anplan/about/collect.html</a></b><br />
<b>A. Virginia:</b> @Carmel, I think Mark and I have interpreted your question in different ways, which is a good thing, because I was thinking about what would happen to the digitised copies as well and was hoping a digital master would be kept!<br />
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<b><i>Q. From Dyonne Adams: What is the schedule for materials from the New England regional newspapers to be loaded on Trove?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Dyonne Adams - Unfortunately we can't provide a schedule for materials for New England (or any specific region) newspapers to be loaded into Trove. The digitisation process does take time, and unfortunately we can only digitise a certain number of newspapers each year. If the titles are on the list of selected titles, then they should be in Trove by June, if not, then they first need to be prioritised etc. If you can organise funding for the title/s to be digitised then they will get done quicker!<br />
<b>A. Dyonne: </b>Inside History Magazine, thanks for asking the question re New England newspapers...do you happen to know what they mean by organising funding?<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>You're welcome Dyonne Adams, anytime :) Funding was discussed in our 1st Q&A with Trove - see <b><a href="http://ow.ly/dGlsZ">http://ow.ly/dGlsZ</a></b> - and some societies etc have started seeking donations to fund the digitisation and load of their local newspapers to Trove. There's also more at <a href="http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/get_involved"><b>http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/get_involved</b></a>, when the NLA sites are back up. Also, Linda Barraclough is in the process of raising funds so she may be able to help :)<br />
<b>A. Dyonne: </b>oh excellent, i'll look tomorrow when the site is up and running...Again, thanks :)<br />
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<b><i>Q. Mark I am with the Ballarat and District Genealogical Society and we have gained funds to have some of our historic newspapers digitised, which are already up on line. We had someone contact us about having their papers done. Who should I direct him to?</i></b><br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Carmel - There are a couple of links on the page to suggest a title that they should read first. They should probably contact their State Library to discuss the options, and they can also use the Trove contact form - <b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact">http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact</a></span></b> - which we will forward to the relevant people.<br />
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<b><i>Q. We're nearly at the end & you've given us your top tips. So can you tell us your favourite find on Trove? And if you've looked up your own families.</i></b><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">A. Virginia:</span><i style="font-weight: bold;"> </i>I know I have a few favourite finds on Trove, mostly little things I come across when I'm searching for something to Tweet about; they're usually funny or strange stories in the newspapers, or gorgeous photos contributed to our Flickr group.<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>My favourite find in Trove is something found when working on getting the Digitised Newspapers up and running - a series of articles about monkeys that escaped from a zoo in Brisbane, including a photo in one of them...I believe the title of the article is 'The Truant'...Search for 'escaped monkey' in the Courier Mail, 1933-1934...<br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>I found a biography of my 3x g grandfather which was such a great find. Also my grandmother was born in Arthurs Creek. A couple of people went there as a holiday and spoke of running into a local and the conversation that followed. this was my great Grandfather, the following day they went to the farm and described the scene. It was like reading a novel and my family were the main characters.<br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Carmel, Wow! That must have been so amazing for you to find!<br />
<b>A. IHM:</b> Love your story Carmel Reynen - that's why we should all travel the paths our ancestors took, you'll never know who or what you'll find :)<br />
<b>A. IHM: </b>Trove: Australia in Picture flickr group :: <b><a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/pictureaustralia_ppe">http://www.flickr.com/groups/pictureaustralia_ppe</a></b><br />
<b>A. Carmel: </b>These are treasures I would never have found if it were not for TROVE. actually when I recommend Trove for people, I tell them to google Trove, think of it as a treasure trove as it is full of treasures.<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>@Carmel - that is a great way to think of it!<br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>@Carmel, Awesome! That's actually how Trove got it's name... a treasure trove. :)<br />
<b>A. Chez. </b>Thanks that was great..my best find so far...a write up on my Great Great Grandfathers 80th Birthday celebration and then his Obituary a couple of years later with the report of his death too....comments made in these articles gave me an insight into the man....<br />
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<b>Comment: IHM: </b>Thanks again to Virginia and Mark for joining us tonight! You can ask questions at http://trove.nla.gov.au/contact and get updates on the system at http://dr.nla.gov.au. Now give them a round of applause :)<br />
<b>A. Linda: </b>Applauding - Thanks Virginia and Mark<br />
<b>A. Virginia: </b>You're most welcome, Ben et al! I think Mark and I get a kick out of these sessions.<br />
<b>A. Mark: </b>You're welcome everyone - I do enjoy these sessions<br />
<b>A. Virginia:</b> Night everyone! Feel free to send any more questions through to us via the contact form and cross fingers we're up tomorrow!<br />
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Remember the joy of connecting to the past you felt when you uncovered your first BMD record? With the World Heritage Membership, you can relive that excitement all year round, as <a href="http://www.ancestry.com.au/insidehistory" target="_blank">Ancestry.com.au’s</a> vast collections are regularly updated. Recent additions include the <a href="http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=8913" target="_blank">England & Wales BMD Index 1837–1915</a> collections. The Marriage Index alone contains more than 33 million records! <br />
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All you need to do to enter the draw for this terrific prize is to send us your answer to the following question:<br />
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<b><i>Q. How many records are there in the Ancestry.com.au England & Wales BMD Marriage Index: 1837–1915?</i></b><br />
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[A] Less than 5m [B] Less than 10m [C] Less than 20m [D] More than 33m<br />
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Simply send your answer, plus your name and contact details to Inside History Ancestry.com.au Giveaway, PO Box 406 Erskineville NSW 2043 or email cass@insidehistory.com.au by 5pm EDST, October 31, 2012.<br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Entries close 5pm EDST, 31/10/12. The first correct answer drawn at random will win and the winner notified by 14/11/12. Allow up to 4 weeks for account set-up. Prize is a World Heritage Membership for 12 months to Ancestry.com.au valued at $299.88. It is not redeemable for cash. Please indicate if you’d like to opt out of our mailing list. We won’t share your details with a third party.</span><br />
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